that, we have a fairly simple case that really shines a very bright light on how donald trump ran his business, his foundation, his life. under what is also clear, this is not the end of it, to your point there, like she wants more from them and it s also not impossible there would be criminal referrals that would come out of this. it s not the end of it, but it might be for barbara underwood because we have a new new york attorney general, the third to handle it, tish james, she takes a progressive approach with enforcement with the trump foundation and perhaps other matters as well. the trump pushback, i should give you their interpretation. the trumps would say they function with no overhead, the same accountants and lawyers and all the same people that were working at the trump organization. their office was at the trump organization. so efficient. it was working basically out of donald trump s house and therefore they had the lowest program fees, able to give millions of d