Little bit and reassure you a lot. The scare you part is that commissioner arce, youre absolutely right. They could set the not to exceed rate next week. They could move forward with a Shell Program and no other program, which as i said is only less than 4 of what we envision. So, but with that said, the reason that advocates have recently voted and said to the sfpuc and to lafco we would like them to proceed with these not to exceed rates is because they are now competitive with pg e. Especially if you compare it to a pg e green rate. And what ms. Malcolm proposed to us tonight are rates that will probably be even more competitive, even competitive with pg es brown power rate. The issue with the shell contract is that whether we like it or not, the local buildout that we all want is no longer tied to the small phase 1 part of the program. Its no longer tied to the shell contract. So, the reality is now that the shell contract is going to have competitive rates if the sfpuc sets compet
Contracts they have available for us to get instate labor, hydro, ghg free, start to go away because theyre going to start selling those contracts to other vendors that they have, other people that want to buy that energy. And, so, we need to keep this thing moving forward. I understand, commissioner arce, that you have some kaiserious concerns. Those are concerns that have nothing to do with the not to exceed rate. They have other program designs and we can continue to have this discussion. You doughthv need a resolution to have that continued discussion. Simply ask the puc staff, i am 100 willing to bet with anyone that ken malcolm and anyone else with the puc would be willing to come back and have those discussions with you here or if you want to have more sitdown meetings one on one with any of you that have questions, we can do all of this. I think what youre about to do is going to seriously harm this program and i would encourage you to volt no on that resolution at this time. T
So, i want to scare you a little bit and reassure you a lot. The scare you part is that commissioner arce, youre absolutely right. They could set the not to exceed rate next week. They could move forward with a Shell Program and no other program, which as i said is only less than 4 of what we envision. So, but with that said, the reason that advocates have recently voted and said to the sfpuc and to lafco we would like them to proceed with these not to exceed rates is because they are now competitive with pg e. Especially if you compare it to a pg e green rate. And what ms. Malcolm proposed to us tonight are rates that will probably be even more competitive, even competitive with pg es brown power rate. The issue with the shell contract is that whether we like it or not, the local buildout that we all want is no longer tied to the small phase 1 part of the program. Its no longer tied to the shell contract. So, the reality is now that the shell contract is going to have competitive rate
Im sorry for this. I think its i think we have to move the conversation to the place that we want it to go. And now is the time to do it. To marry the vision thats been articulated by the commission, by folks from the public, and get that to be exactly what the puc staff is saying. Because there is some kind of disconnect. And this does that because the goals that weve articulated are our goals, goals of supporters, folks that have worked on this for a long time. I included myself in this. All right. So, how about i hear what youre saying. There is a second. We need to move it to a vote. Are you calling the question, commissioner king . Yes. Director [speaker not understood]. I was wondering if the commissions by laws would allow electronic voting. They don. ~ do not. Thats not in our by laws. Is there any other discussion . Bylaws ~ dont we have to have Public Comment . Yes. Public comment on the proposed action. Jason freed, lafco staff. What i just heard read i think would be a big
We need to move it to a vote. Are you calling the question, commissioner king . Yes. Director [speaker not understood]. I was wondering if the commissions by laws would allow electronic voting. They don. ~ do not. Thats not in our by laws. Is there any other discussion . Bylaws ~ dont we have to have Public Comment . Yes. Public comment on the proposed action. Jason freed, lafco staff. What i just heard read i think would be a big detriment to this program. I think that while there are some questions that still need to be answered, this is the wrong way to go about it. You are going to be derailing this program. It has a very sensitive start time. If we can get this thing started in the spring, all these things that were talking about can occur. If we continue to wait, the things that shell is saying they can potentially do, those contracts they have available for us to get instate labor, hydro, ghg free, start to go away because theyre going to start selling those contracts to other v