29th deal was a test just like the agreed framework and just like the september 19 statement. These three tests may have been different in terms of the speed with which they were failed, and the significance of this action so soon in the air of north koreas new leadership in terms of the federal 29th understanding was not particularly encouraging as prospects for authentic and credible negotiations. Most importantly, for us federal 229th demonstrate north korea was not yet prepared to engage in negotiations with the sickness of purpose necessary to ensure that negotiations would result in concrete denuclearization process. So that was the 29th, 2012. And as you know, little seasons in seoul, washington and beijing were looming. And as north korea watched the elections and Political Activities in those three capitals, it began for another series of actions which would commence in december with another launch, followed with a nuclear test the next year, 2013, followed by period of intens
Conduct requirement came out of the experience that pg e and marin energy had when marin energy launched its program so the code of conduct puts certain restrictions on both parties, the utility, in our case pg e and on us as a cca. Broadly speaking it prohibits either party from misleading customers. It requires that any expenditures that pg e incurs to actively market against the program cannot be reimbursed by rate payers and shared by shareholders. It allows pg e to answer questions and educate about their program and how it compares to our program. It requires both parties to work with the California Public Utilities Commission Public Advisors office to create a comparison document that would be made able by all parties on the two Program Offerings. So that gives you some of the key elements. And the code of conduct you said is in the process of being approved or is approved. So a proposed decision was drafted and sent out for comment by the cupuc staff. It then by state statute s
100 renewable Electricity Supply within 10 years, so i think how people are informed is pretty critical. Yes, yes. And thats largely why were making the presentation today is to talk through what the different methods are. Yes. We dont get to the level of detail of actual scripts but we do have examples of the questions we will be asking and the information we will be providing, and this bill premium chart is a good example of just the level of detail we can provide customer when is we talk with them because we will know what tier theyre in and can say what your typical bill is like today and what it would like if you stay with the cleanpower sf program. Its deeper than the cost. Some people see the value and investing in a sustainable future. Right, and so talking about the product. And this is put on. Look you will see the increases in your bills and then people might be inclined to opt out if theyre not reminded of the value behind the clean sf program. I understand and i take your
Are the areas we will be focusing on. We do have detail numbers behind the picture that we could certainly share with you, and have shared with the puc previously. Okay. Very good. Commissioner mo ran. Thank you through the chair do we know what the pg e premium is likely to be for their green offering. In their initial proposal it was stated if memory serves me at not more than 2 cents 2. 5 cents over what they currently charge customers b again that is a proposal. It will go through the cupuc process and may change. When you say 2. 5 cents is that literally like the 21. 97 would go to 21. 99 . Harlan kelly, general manager, so its about 6 per month versus 11dollar premium that we have equivalent to 6. Yes, and thats for thats reflective for the cost difference between providing a Renewable Energy credit versus firmed and shaped renewable power, so its the product difference that is embedded in that price difference which goes to commissioner olagues statement that people need to unde
Program when it was initially proposed by pg e would have pg e offering to san franciscans an opportunity for 100 renewable product that is greening up their portfolio to using Renewable Energy credits, so they have placed a proposal before the california puc for their agreement. Parties are engaged in asking questions, testimony has been filed. The cupuc had scheduled hearings in december for the proposal, but those hearings on hold in order to allow parties to talk further and potentially arrive at a settlement. There really isnt active settlement discussion under way right now. We expect that may happen in january, and if you play out that process we think that maybe july or august of 2013 we will know what shape the program that pg e has proposed has been authorized by the cupuc. Pg e would then as i understand it from their filings need to go through a solicitation process to hire a Third Party Contractor to perform the Program Implementation and were thinking it would probably be