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Think 10 times larger impact on the deficit. i think they are in position now and what i heard today is to try to get something done before the christmas break. >> shannon: okay. equipment, quick comment to you on this before we get to winners and losers. >> yeah. so im not entirely sure this is as big a victory this was a messaging bill. joe manchin said he is not even working off of it so whatever comes up in the senate, the house is going to have to vote on it again. and if you would hold joe...