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Were going to switch topics and talk about the incident that happened with the plane getting shot down by turkey. so a lot of people wondering, does anybody have a benefit to this? will there be a benefit that with go to russia or turkey or europe from this escalation and the conflict? and in fact are we in the middle of a proxy war? >> in fact kimberly, i think its a dangerous situation, theres a great deal of concern. i was woken up about seven minutes after the plane was shot down. and spoke ...

Weve just learned, shep, russia has now deployed a missile cruiser off the syrian coast ordering it to destroy any target that poses a danger to its forces. >> jennifer griffin at the pentagon. back to her as events warrant. nato holding what it is now calling an emergency extraordinary meeting after turkey shot down that russian plane. last month nato warned russia it was risking, quote, extreme danger by flying into turkish air space. lets bring in kurt voccer, a former u.s. ambassador to nato...

Awful lot of them, are middle class, theyre educated. theyre trying to build a future. their country is destroyed in a proxy war that involves a lot of american allies. as the united states has done very little to actually bring it to an end. that doesnt mean were responsible for all of them but were not talking about a you will of them. were talking about next year maybe 100,000. there are 4 million of them. there are 2.5 million in turkey. they have increased enormously the size of the populat...

Completely external western force moving in. the troop on the ground there are mostly kurds. and a lot of the areas theyre moving into are sunni arab areas. raqqa is a sunni arab city, sending peshmerga into that city. thats fine. they can kick out isis but that wha are the local population going to do with the idea of being occupied by kurdish militia? thats why theres such focus on the sunni forces who are used to be the acceptable sunni arab face of this kurdish force. while youre here, barac...

Them is remarkable. and they are expanding the battlefield. they are expanding the battlefield. theyre raising up and ratcheting up the fear level that many average innocent citizens throughout the world are worrying about. this becomes a big propaganda issue when you look at what theyre able to do and deploy under very stressed circumstances. >> there is already polling out there that shows the majority of americans support ground troops in syria to combat isis. we have here in the wake of the ...

>> it is so confusing. >> i have doubts it reflects any sort of change in their view and unfortunately, it certainly is inconclusive about whether or not they are prepared it change their flawed strategy. >> josh earnests remarks followes a series of mixed messages from russian officials about the fate of president assad who made a surprise visit to moscow last week. >> translator: western countries should be clear. we do not intend to change the assad regime and itll continue to hold power. >> ...

Here, but its not going to be a degree that actually changes anything. >> look, the president of the united states has been right up until now, suggesting that what you have in syria is a civil war with a proxy war stacked on top of it. and its not clear what sending 50 special operation forces do to change that equation. it will put some of them in harms way. it may matter in some tilting way here and there in a battle, but it does change things. and ill quote general jim jones, president obama...

So i want to start with a tweet that simply brings up the question from russia from t.m. freeman and just let you take it away. >> do i hear a tweet? >> absolutely. is this a proxy war against russia? are we about to take them on. >> no, we are partnering with them. as i said to you off-air, did you ever think you would see the day when the u.s. was part of the axis of evil. >> iran, russia, cuba and a sadz a assad and we are on the ground with them invited by putin in to come and carry it out. ...

Than the kurds are. >> richard, youre painting a messy picture. but youve been painting a messy picture for some time as youve been covering this story. >> and i didnt answer your question about the russians. is it possible that the russians could bomb them? >> its possible. i know theyve been deconflicting and today in vienna, you saw lavrov said he doesnt want to engage in a proxy war with the united states, which sounded like a promise, saying hes not going to bomb u.s. troops in a foreign co...

Syria and iraq making sure it doesnt spread to jordan which is ally of turkey or ally anomaly, though they have been a little nuts. what are we doing in lebanon? there is nobody in lebanon in charge. it is failed state. who are we working in lebanon? is it hezbollah? harris: we need you at the press briefing. >> that is the problem. absolutely insane policy no more than 50 people? i dont care if it is best team of 50 biters we have. harris: they would be among the best. >> what is the endgame or...