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Where only about 2/3 of the iraqi members of parliament showed up and they huffed out of the room in part because they didnt believe they were going to get their salaries for a days work. i think the stakes are so high that we deserve to give this political consensus building effort a chance. if it doesnt work then the united states cannot be seen as taking sides in what could be an enormous regional proxy war inside iraq. >> there is a question about what american interests are in iraq aside fr...

They have to see they need to be a part of it. they have to see this is not about us acting in a way with iranians where the net effect that iranians become stronger and in effect this proxy war that goes on between iran and saudi arabia is one in which iran gains and our friend lose. jenna: talk about specifics when we say a plan to deal with isis. do you mean destroy isis? do you mean to go in and kill bad guys and get them out there have completely? does it mean to tolerate a certain islamic ...

Where we feel we need to back somebody to show -- to demonstrate credibility. demonstrate strength and not to lose influence over that client or not to lose influence over adversaries. thats sort of how brittain and france and germany got involved in the war in the balkans. >> would that apply to iraq, that we would get in because we wanted to show the iraqi government? >> it would be less the iraqi government than the saudis in a sense because the sense that the sunni/shia war is a proxy war be...

Demonstrate strength and not to lose influence over that client or not to lose influence over adversaries. thats sort of how brittain and france and germany got involved in the war in the balkans. >> would that apply to iraq, that we would get in because we wanted to show the iraqi government? >> it would be less the iraqi government than the saudis in a sense because the sense that the sunni/shia war is a proxy war between iran and the saudis. the biggest difference though that i actually see i...

From what happened in the last few months, one of them seems to be, inevitably whenever the u.s. leaves something bad is going to happen because instability is the rule given this history and given the nature of the country. >> and particularly if we had a hand in falsely creating the -- >> we could go in and create a brand-new government all over again and step back -- >> do you really want to get in the mid of the sunni/shiite divide which has been happening longer than the u.s. has been aroun...

Trying to bring into the fold. pressure the sunnis in iraq to do something and come up with a leader. and also pressure them to stop supporting isis. >> youre right. its a twofold process right now with the sunni community here. the sunni arab community. on one hand they have isis. isis is the tip of the spear. theres a groundswell of resistance against the government. thats really where saudi arabia and qatar and some of the other regional countries have influences. with the sunni arab communit...

Set in motion the dogs of war and many of the people hes empowered are not fully under his control. there are extreme russian nationalists, there are russian fascists operating. there are true believers that will not necessarily listen to the kremlin. if russia wants to stop this conflict, it can stop i would say 90% of the military activity in eastern ukraine. i think that one of the reasons mr. putin is preparing his population for the fact that russia will not directly intervene is because th...

Americans wont accept a large incursion of forces on the ground. so some may call it a compromise. its a wise military strategy the military has been looking at for a long time. >> i couldnt agree more on that in terms of general stance of caution. he seems to have learned a lesson in the way of history. the question is whether this approach of a proxy war hes been advocating first at west point and now in his latest comments is cautious enough. because of the long-term repercussions. hogan, ano...

Back into the political fold? >> i think there was an opportunity which was missed, really, in 2010 when as soon as qatar formed with other shias the iraqi bloc and picked up shia leader to lead them and attended that they were the winners and the elections of 2010. but unfortunately, the attitude of the united states and the issue of iran was rejecting the winner to form the government. >> do you see a proxy war going on at the moment? the iranians on the other. the saudis on the other who have...

That will just give isis a huge recruiting tool that the u.s. cause a lot of sillian casualties. >> michael, let me run by you this issue to maliki, is there an alternative? >> thats a good question. i think the alternative has been pushlged from iraq a long time ago. several months ago you may recall 40 sunni mps resigned from parliament. ones house had been raided, his family had been killed. the vice president of iraq is in exile either in turkey or qatar depending on whom you speak to on ver...