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Daily news," quote, when the whole thing is over, things might get cleared up with some presidential pardons. giuliani adding, i dont understand the justification for putting him in jail. you put a guy in jail if hes trying to kill witnesses, not talking to witnesses. however, he later downplayed those comments in an interview with nbc news, saying he would advise against a pardon. some mixed signals there. joining me now, ken dilanian, national security reporter for nbc news, michael schmidt is...