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Not been the case. in fact, there is reverse migration. >> bill: this is a big problem here. the cartels. the mexican government cannot control the drug cartels. we all know that. established fact. in fact, the cartels are going -- gunning down mexican journalists like crazy. and politicians. so we on the american side say, we dont want all thesewe narcotics and we hope the wall is going to stop some of it. if you object to the wall -- >> i think mexicans are rejecting the idea of a berlin-style...