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his attempt to overturn the election. someone who knew what he was doing. according to congresswoman liz cheney, he had every reason to know that what he was doing was wrong. the argument seems to be the president trump was manipulated by others outside the administration. that he was persuaded to ignore his closest advisors and that he was incapable of telling right from wrong. this, of course, is nonsense. president trump is a 76-year- old man. he is not an impressionable child. the first time the public were shown testimony from pat cipollone, who spoke to the panel friday. going to start by asking you if you agree with all of the individuals that there is no evidence of no election fraud sufficient to change the outcome ? yes, i believe that. did you believe that the president should concede once you made determination based on the. did you form the believe that the president should see the election loss of a certain point after the election. well, yeah. i w

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