is it going to be a crisis? it might be. it s possible. but the most important one, four, is anything we do now going to make any significant difference? and there, no. i am a denier. because we re just wasting money and hurting poor people doing the stuff we did under president obama and before him. tucker: but i mean the argument is that to acts is a moral imperative and it s immoral not to the act. do you buy that? it s immoral to act if it isn t going it make much difference, if it makes it harder for poor people to live. if it raises the price of energy that really hurts people. it might be a moral imperative to act on ma layer i can t or disin tear ri, real problems we have now but we don t know about climate change. but buying all the priuses, if everybody followed the paris agreement, even proponents admit
point about russia, what s silly about the kushner comment is they were not only open for business, they never took the threat from russia seriously, despite what was known during the campaign and from intelligence services the president still doesn t accept that russia alone did this. now at least congress has tied his hands on the sanctions. the issue now is the potential to turn the corner. there are people like general mattis, and now general kelly who are close enough on really big issues to have the president s ear and apparently have his respect to potentially instill some real discipline in trump. the question is whether trump listens to anybody, and that will be the ultimate test, and this whole issue with the misleading comment that the post is reporting on this morning, what does general kelly do with that, do with the response to that? that s what we re going to be keeping our eyes on, because you have a chief of staff who has got this kind of power. let s see him, the ev
with helping to train police officers, how to respond in those situations. our police officers at that time were woefully inadequate in terms of controlling the crowd. they didn t have the right kind of equipment. they didn t have the right kind of leadership. hopefully, we have learned from those mistakes. certainly, that was a very dark day in baltimore history. we don t want that to happen again. tucker: you are an honest man. delegate anderson, thank you for joining us tonight. thank you for having me. tucker: the rise of another populist movement across the west, there s a lot of them, has triggered an accompanying surge of activists who claim that the only thing standing between democracy and fascism is them. a writer says nobody is more fascist than the antifascists. he joins us tonight. what do you mean by that? that these are the real fascists? they are the most brutal and
few weeks. it is the nearest thing to real news. tucker: it sad. they there are a lot of talented people. i worked there. they are smart, serious people, but they are being pushed to the side of. what about the prediction you heard rush limbaugh, who use it in for sometimes, say that they are going to be a casualty of the trump administration? i think that is likely. the argument that van jones was saying, that it s a nothing burger, but it s ratings, that is true in the short term. but there are diminishing returns to this. it s a russian investigation with no russians. the only russian anyone s ever mentions is the ambassador, who was strolling around lunging all over the district of columbia. he is the only sinister russian in this story. it s a russian investigation without any russians. at some point, it will be like one of those russian dolls that all the tourist light, you open the big russian doll, there is a
delegate anderson joins us tonight. thank you a lot for coming on. thanks for having me. tucker: i don t think it s a straight line between the political party in charge and the problems, or the good parts of a city. i do think over time, maybe you can acknowledge that things are not working and it s time to change. i never hear people say this. you are saying it. what led you to that conclusion? number one, it is clear that when you have a murderer a day in baltimore city, that things are not going the way that we want them to go. democrats, as you say, have been in charge and baltimore for a long time. i m not saying that that is going to change anytime soon because most of the republicans have left the city. what i am saying, though, is that we can still work with people like president trump or governor larry hogan, with regard to bringing in the kinds of resources that we need to help try to solve the problem. one of the resources would be money to put computers and police ca