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He said -- i said this guy is really smart. he said no crooks are smart because they always think its not going to happen to them. this is trumps m.o., he says the most outrageous things because he never thinks its going to have an effect on him. eventually it always does. its happening to paul manafort and its going to have to donald trump. >> jennifer, on that point, the -- some reporting about how manafort views all of this from his circle. with mueller closing in, manaforts allies abandon hi...

Do a lot of work to articulate the difference and exactly what youre arguing. now these videos may have gone a long way to do that. >> it may open some minds. martha: they definitely opened minds on both sides i think of this issue in a large way, so that may go a bit of the distance doing just that. lets look at one of these polls where hillary is concerned. she is slipping in terms of the backing that she is getting from white women. unfavorable is now at 53% in this "wall street journal/nbc" ...