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I understand you get more publicity, i understand that, but i think when you start hurting local businesses, and that happened -- let me give you an example. in dc, there was a taste of d.c i met the guy who organized it. hes not a political figure. he said, i think ive lost about $250,000. this was on friday night, because of the level of security they had to bring in, tourists didnt want to come downtown. hes a little guy and hes been hurt a lot by this. one of you can chime in. amelia maybe. ...

>> well, right now, looking at the board, it is down -- well, it was six and now it is down 11. but one more question for you, brian, before you go, and how much of the turmoil in the u.s. is being fueled by the debt crisis in europe? >> i think a lot of it. you know, i have been sort of screaming about europe for a while and not trying to toot my own horn or anything, but when we look at europe, and we think greece, and portugal and ireland and they are small countries, but collectively what pe...

In a sense? >> well, my clear sense is that mr. boehner knows it is unacceptable for us to default on the debt, and he knows that, but he has many rank and file members who have said they will not only vote no, but hell no, and what he is trying to do is to let the membership realize and appreciate how significant it would be if america defaulted. that would be a catastrophe. >> and an important person in the debate is grover norquist and what do you believe he meant, we have two reports, one fr...

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Different professional investors, and all three of them offered me more than double what i was asking for. >> money in the bank, right? not in this case. abbie turned them all down. >> i had to trust my gut and realize, if this wasnt a good partnership, it wasnt ever going to be a good partnership. i had to walk away three times from offers of millions of dollars. >> her gut was telling her that these offers were from people who just didnt get her concept. they may have had had money, but in exc...

Abbie turned them all down. >> i had to trust my gut and realize, if this wasnt a good partnership, it wasnt ever going to be a good partnership. i had to walk away three times from offers of millions of dollars. >> her gut was telling her that these offers were from people who just didnt get her concept. they may have had had money, but in exchange for the cash, they wanted a lot of control. so with sam on board, they changed gears and started reaching out to people who did get the concept. >> ...

Sound humbled by what he now says was a grave mistake in criticizing the paul ryan kill medicare plan, mr. gingrich once again proved that however humble he wants to sounds are he does not have the humble thing in is arsenal. >> its going to take a little while for the news media to sort of realize, youre getting a chance to cover something that happens once or twice in a century. a genuinely grassroots campaign, of very bold ideas. i expect it to take a little while to sink in. >> newt gingrich...

At a time when he is trying to sound humbled by what he now says was a grave mistake in criticizing the paul ryan kill medicare plan, mr. gingrich once again proved that however humble he wants to sound are he does not have the humble thing in is arsenal. >> its going to take a little while for the news media to sort of realize, youre getting a chance to cover something that happens once or twice in a century. a genuinely grassroots campaign, of very bold ideas. i expect it to take a little whil...

>> not what paul ryan is suggesting. >> i think thats too big a jump. i think what you want is a system where people voluntarily migrate to better outcomes, better solutions, not one where you suddenly impose. im against obama care which is imposing radical change and i will be against a conservative imposing radical change. >> there we have. eric, youre excellent at this. thank god for tape. thank god there actually is a record of what we do on television. is newt trying to do one of those supe...