i think there is no doubt that human rights violations have taken place in ukraine and every single international justice expert i ve spoken to here in the hague and beyond is adamant about that, but what we have to look at is the process ofjustice because that s what matters in terms of actually getting people in the dock. at the moment, everyone is wondering will we ever see vladimir putin in the dock here in the hague? it feels a long way off. but, of course, there have been cases in the past where people who have seemed untouchable one day, heads of state, have appeared here in the hague. it s about the commanders on the ground who are receiving orders, working out where those orders came from. the issue with this case which has been launched by the international criminal court is that russia is not a member of the icc, but ukraine is not a member, either. ukraine accepted jurisdiction, which means that those commanders who are on the ground now committing, possibly, war crimes, ca
at the moment, everyone is wondering, will be ever see vladimir putin in the dock here in the hague? it feels a long way off. but of course, there have been cases in the past where people who have seemed untouchable one day, heads of state, have appeared here in the hague. it s about the commanders on the ground, who are receiving orders, working out where those orders came from. the issue with this case which has been launched by the international criminal court is that russia is not a member of the icc, but ukraine is not a member, either. ukraine accepted jurisdiction, which means that those commanders who are on the ground now committing, possibly, war crimes, can be held accountable, could be arrested and could be extradited to face justice in the hague. in terms of the people who are still in russia, that s another story. what would it take to get russia to send them to a court that it
crimes have been committed? i think there is no doubt that human rights violations have taken place in ukraine, and every single international justice expert i ve spoken to here in the hague and beyond is adamant about that. but what we have to look at is the process ofjustice, because that s what matters in terms of actually getting people in the dock. at the moment, everyone is wondering, will be ever see vladimir putin in the dock here in the hague? it feels a long way off. but of course, there have been cases in the past where people who have seemed untouchable one day, heads of state, have appeared here in the hague. it s about the commanders on the ground who are receiving orders, working out where those orders came from. the issue with this case which has been launched by the international criminal court is that russia is not a member of the icc, but ukraine is not a member either. ukraine accepted jurisdiction, which means that those
have been committed? i think there is no doubt that human rights violations have taken place in ukraine and every single international justice expert i ve spoken to here in the hague and beyond is adamant about that, but what we have to look at is the process ofjustice because that s what matters in terms of actually getting people in the dock. at the moment, everyone is wondering will we ever see vladimir putin in the dock here in the hague? it feels a long way off. but, of course, there have been cases in the past where people who have seemed untouchable one day, heads of state, have appeared here in the hague. it s about the commanders on the ground who are receiving orders, working out where those orders came from. the issue with this case which has been launched by the international criminal court is that russia is not a member of the icc, but ukraine is not a member, either. ukraine accepted jurisdiction, which means that those commanders who are on the ground now committing, pos
here in the hague. it s about the commanders on the ground who are receiving orders, working out where those orders came from. the issue with this case which has been launched by the international criminal court is that russia is not a member of the icc, but ukraine is not a member, either. ukraine accepted jurisdiction, which means that those commanders who are on the ground now committing, possibly, war crimes, can be held accountable, could be arrested and could be extradited to face justice in the hague. in terms of the people who are still in russia, that s another story. what would it take to get russia to send them to a court that it doesn t actually sign up to? the prosecutor who is here today, he has the benefit, in a sense, that this conflict is ongoing and it s much easier usually, these things happen years after the event. i myself have have witnessed all sorts of things which i thought were war crimes happening and yet,