about, and there is a sort ever quiet or careful bruinication between his russia probe and the congressional ones. they used lies as a matter to prosecute. i think the michael cohen situation online to congress was the hip of the iceberg. they almost certainly will be prosecuted for lying. he first said to adam schiff and eric swalwell he had no advanced knowledge and he admitted he did. he basically gave us both sides while we were in the committee room. i haven t heard you go that far. you think authorities written record evidence that roger stone
donald trump at the end of the day walk away from it all by saying i don t know what michael did, you don t have any record evidence on me? i don t think that s going to be the case because i also think that the testimony that michael cohen will ultimately provide relating to donald trump, what he did, when he knew it, and how he proceeded is going to be devastating for him. that s been my position for some time. but here s the problem with this theory. this theory of let s get out in front of it, ari, that might have been a great theory in strategy two or three months ago back in january or february. but that s not what happened. the wall street journal piece broke. we then subsequently filed our lawsuit. in between you have michael cohen who went on the record. we then came in after we filed our lawsuit, came forward with a number of accusations, allegations, some evidence. and we ve taken the fight to them for the last two months. and other than david schwartz who made a cameo a