mainstream for document series on netflix how to change your mind examines the issue the series is through the top of the netflix streaming charts. driving out his chief of psychiatry and ethics doc one health. little different subject this time with you. given your background in psychiatry, mental health obviously something you know a lot about. depression, runs in my family it's a devastating thing. it's not sadness or not sandy lawton but he lost a job, you are depressed and there's no real connection to anything tangible. is this a potential treatment ketamine, and mushrooms? >> the short answer is yes, dan. as a psychiatrist and clinical experience kind with both sides of these drugs. on the one hand i have seen psychedelics harm patients when they are used recreationally or irresponsibly use. i've also seen them help.
mainstream for document series on netflix how to change your mind examines the issue the series is through the top of the netflix streaming charts. driving out his chief of psychiatry and ethics doc one health. little different subject this time with you. given your background in psychiatry, mental health obviously something you know a lot about. depression, runs in my family it's a devastating thing. it's not sadness or not sandy lawton but he lost a job, you are depressed and there's no real connection to anything tangible. is this a potential treatment ketamine, and mushrooms? >> the short answer is yes, dan. as a psychiatrist and clinical experience kind with both sides of these drugs. on the one hand i have seen psychedelics harm patients when they are used recreationally or irresponsibly use. i've also seen them help.
75-milligram dose given iv by an anesthesiologist and very controlled setting, might be right at the sweet spot. if you give 80 milligrams, he bump up the dose a little bit the patient is put to sleep you do not the beneficial effect pretty get a little less may drop down the dose by 5 milligrams, they don't get the therapeutic effect at all. it is something that has to be done in a very refined way. you could imagine someone using recreationally on the streets. it is very easy to go wrong. this type of drug something occult dissociative anesthetic. when you get intoxicated with that you can be disoriented, there are fault risks there's all kinds of potential problems. but at the same time we do not want to throw out the baby with the bathwater. because if they are used correctly they can have very profound effects from things like depression. i am starting to see promising
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money. i think that i'm interested in any new possible distraction. i don't like to eat recreationally. >> you don't like to eat period fred. >> i like to eat because that's how i not die, but i don't do i recreationally. that's not the last thing. >> i would be remiss if i didn' defend walgreens a lot of singl debts i didn't have times spent a lot of christmas at walgreens fit. >> we made a whole christmas dinner out of it. >> thank you, walgreens fred. >> and other closing early, to get there has to be. >> i do want to thank them for taking over the team and standing up for america. >> you bailed out a lot of last-minute gifts. get the good whitman sampler. >> cvs doesn't do that.
joke isn't that funny. kat, you have no experience and neither do i, but is it in important to keep an open mind? >> yes, it's obvious how much research there is that it can help with depression, can help with ptsd and so forth. but also i don't think that matters as much as the fact that we shouldn't be criminalizing a decision for what you want to put in your own body. i think you should be allowed to do it even if research just showed it was kind of fun. >> greg: i don't mind it -- i don't mind anything be used recreationally, including me. you took magic mushrooms in the green room, how do you feel right now? you are flying, argue? >> i'm having a terrific time. speed when i told you it would be great. it's going to last about four hours. >> i'm one of the people who thinks we should legalize drugs in any way, shape, or form. with the veterans it is a big issue.
equal access to that either. >> if you're biden you like to talk about the decriminalization of other things. he likes to talk about the racist part of the agenda but does not like to talk about it when it comes to marijuana, in part, because he's part of an older washington and does not believe necessarily marijuana should be used recreationally. there is this racial justice part that he does not want to focus on and talk about in part because it's a difficult message. people talk about the crime bill and all the people who have been locked up for marijuana and some of that is linked to biden and the bill he pushed back in the 90s. it's a difficult place for him to be in. progre progressives to try to push him to get him into the 21st century. it doesn't appear he's willing to change just yet. >> it doesn't look surprising there aren't more republicans. matt gaetz is a supporter of legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana. at this point it seems there should be republicans on the side of this as well, right?
have some kind of dialogue around that before you tell the athletes it's totally fine. >> that would take logic and intelligence. that seems to be lacking a lot of public discourse. let's bring in the medical experts and weigh the options with good and bad. stop making so much sense on this show, please. >> gillian: certainly not a decision that anyone is going to come to in a month or a few weeks. >> no. >> gillian: thank you for joining us happy belated fourth. hope you are celebrating today fifth. >> you too as well. >> gillian: you bet. all right. so griff, my issue with this is as i just said. if you are going to allow drugs to be used recreationally by major athletes, you then have an obligation to educate and inform them about the potential negative side effects. for some people like sha'carri it might help her mentally but there could be physical