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The regular meeting of the San Francisco Ethics Commission and well begin by taking roll. Commissioner studley . Here. Commissioner liu . Commissioner renee . Present. All members of the commission being present, lets start with the agenda. Public comment on matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda that are within the jurisdiction of the Ethics Commission. good evening dale pillpa, just wanted to comment and perhaps inquire on the election season that has just concluded. I assume that th...

Turned over. With respect to the two different standards voting whether its three commissioners vote and that there is no violation or vote there is a fining of a violation, that has to do with the burden of proof, because in a showcause hearing that the respondent bears the burden of finding that there is no violation, we, the commission, will be voting on whether he has met that burden of showing that there is no violation. And that is what requires the threevote majority. On the flipside, whe...

We have already eliminated the financial penalty, but im just struggling to find that here. Thanks. There were some good points raised. With respect to enforcement, i think it gives us some enforcement authority. Exactly what kind i agree is ambiguous. I think if it means anything it has to mean the ability to actually enforce. And demand that the records be turned over. With respect to the two different standards voting whether its three commissioners vote and that there is no violation or vote...

Generally have a good time. Whether it is awkward camp or junior guard. From more information, visit [ gavel ] good evening and welcome to the regular meeting of the San Francisco Ethics Commission and well begin by taking roll. Commissioner studley . Here. Commissioner liu . Commissioner renee . Present. All members of the commission being present, lets start with the agenda. Public comment on matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda that are within the jurisdiction of the Ethics Commis...

Would actually have the power under the charter or the ordinance to so order. I get you that make a finding and post it on the website and send it to whoever you want, send warning letters and all of that. Its just the power to order a respondent to cease and desist a violation or produce the record, im not sure im finding that explicitly in the ordinance or in the charter. And so im just trying to figure out where we grab that power from. We have already eliminated the financial penalty, but im...

Records he was entitled to under the sunshine ordinance act and under the open records act, and was not given them and was given them later than the period he asked for them. Youre aware of that . Yes. Okay. So what youre saying when you agree with your report you are agreeing that in regard to your department your department did then violate the particular rules relating to the obligation to turn over these materials at the time they should have been turned over . Yes. We will contend those wil...

I take it to regard to any things done in violation of any rules or regulation by these individuals who were named in the report that at some point mr. Ram would have been informed of that if the supervisor knew of it and that he would have taken some disciplinary steps . He would have informed if they felt the department wasnt in compliance or the planners werent responding in a timely fashion and to my understanding there was no knowledge of that of the supervisor at that time so in other word...

You are stating to us that the Planning Department violated those sections referenced in the report of our staff . We did not provide some of those materials in a timely fashion, yes. Which was a violation of the rules as reflected in the materials that are put forth in the report of our staff . Youve already said you agree with it . Thats correct. Okay. I dont have anything further. Others . Thank you for your recounting and commissioner keane that helped me. I was going to come at this differe...

Wondering what the thinking is on the timing for that . Its usually a few months down the road, but given the various things that happened this cycle, i believe it will be interesting to look at the numbers after the fact and maybe we can have some discussion at that time about the program and how it works given what we anticipated about a yearago going into this cycle. I dont know if staff has an indication of when that mike be happening. A few months. Thanks. Next item on the agenda is discuss...

Commissioners to have additional questions or comments about how things should be addressed . Is there a motion to adopt Decision Point 2 subject to the following amendments 1, to change subsection 2d3 and make that subsection 2d2 and flip it with what currently exists as 2d . Im lost. Commission rennes suggestion and to add email language to subsection 2c2. Other amendments that were proposed . Is there a motion to adopt Decision Point subject to those changes . So moved . Second. All in favor ...