obamacare which is in deterioration. i think we ll slow down this week when the cbo number comes out. i think the bill s going to pass. both the house and senate? absolutely, but we have no idea what the bill looks like yet. you think what we see now is it will go through changes, in my opinion. helene, does it happen this year? i don t think it s going to pass, and i also think that we are going to be stuck with obamacare except we re not going to fix what s wrong with it which puts us in a worse position. the reason i agree with rick is the difference within the republican party are structural and it s not like there is a magic solution that will please them. i was just going to say, there seems to be an ideological divide that can t be fiblgsed. i think the freedom caucus as they call themselves now is a nice pull and i think they ll get some of their values and ideas embedded in some changes in this policy. do you think democrats will go for this? you kn
they kept some subsidiesubsidie would say in the wrong place to the wrong folks. i understand on that. but if this were the plan in place and you and president obama were back in office in four years and you could reimplement obamacare, could this architecture be used? i don t think so. because i think this does serious damage to the whole marketplace theory, and companies will flee given the uncertainty and the likelihood this quickly becomes a high risk pool. they make the argument that companies are fleeing now because they feel as if it s too expensive to try to insure everybody. we do have this issue in rural america. it is the rural counties that have been the hardest when it comes to the word choice. i think that s true, chuck. there is no question this is a young and fragile market. it s been made that way by congress who blocked the risk
the matter is it will put us in a bind. now, that doesn t mean that we can t fix this along the way. but we need to have democrats involved so that what we do is going to be not only significant but will last and then we get to the real problem, chuck, which is the rising costs of health care. and that s where santelli really hit the nail on the head. we need to get to more of a market driven system where we pay for quality, not for quantity in health care. i think the president, by the way, would be flexible. i have no doubt about it, that he would be flexible. he just wants to get something through. the idea of getting democrats involved here, the only day president trump expressed what sounded like a conspiracy theory about obamacare and implosion in 2017. take a listen. 17 would be a disaster for obamacare. that s the year it was meant to explode because obama won t be
day. many stay any new plan would be a vast improvement over the current system and the time say they to make any sweeping change is right now. this is the closest we will ever get to repealing and replacing obamacare. republicans racing the political clock to push through a health care replacement bill have a message. republicans unified. we are unified. we are unified. we re really excited about the unified votes. but the fight over health care is exposing divisions within the republican party between small government conservative, swing state moderates and a president who ran as a pop you list and is governing as a national list. who key house committees voted to repeal the affordable care act. this is just obamacare with a different label. it appears to be the largest welfare program ever proposed by republicans in the hits try of our country.
she was and is a strong advocate of obamacare. she joins me now. nice to see you. nice to see you. let me start with a question about the republican plan and whether you accept the idea that this is obamacare-lite. do you believe they kept the architecture of obamacare in place? i m not sure what the goal is. we were rapretty clear in the obama administration what the goal was. we knew we had to change insurance rules to do that. no more pre-existing conditions. people who. reporter: were buying their insurance on their own needed help in the marketplace. you could keep kids on their parent s plan. whether you lived in georgia or california you qualified a a low-income adult on t same level. i m not sure what the goal is here. they have kept some pieces, the pre-existing condition.