wanted him out. so what biden did was commendable. he was pursuing our policy going after corruption in ukraine and seeking the removal of the prosecutor general who was not going after corruption. obviously i m going to put it undiplomatically, what the president is saying is wrong, is completely counter to what you know and lived. that s correct. and let me give you a little bit of color on this. they ve been quoting the prosecutor general who vice president biden helped remove shortly. and mayor giuliani was waving around this affidavit that shulkin had produced which he criticized vice president biden. but the odd thing is which undermines shulkin, he produces that affidavit in support of one of ukraine s most notorious oligarchs who s under indictment in the united states. i want to make sure everyone realizes this is not the ambassador saying this today.
you said this in 2016 testimony before congress. i m looking back at your testimony that was brought forth reminding us of this great reporting and you talk about this, that the u.s. vice president joe biden spoke publicly about this before and during his december visit to kieve but mr. shulkin remained in place. you added vice president joe biden has been a great advocate in reform for ukraine. with all of this we also have cnn s kylie atwood she s reporting michael mckinley resigned pause of the silence coming from the top ranks of the state department not defending marie yovanovitch in what she s experienced and the tarnish to her reputation that was attempted by those around president trump. what do you think of that, the fact this top advisor mike pompeo is resigning over this? well, i have a slightly
perspective. at the center of all this is the president s pressure on ukraine to investigate joe pieden and his son, hunter biden. if biden had tried to push out a prosecutor in ukraine to protect his son. there s no evidence i will say once again of any wrongdoing on their part but this is the president s focus. you testified before congress in 2016 about this same prosecutor and joe biden s role. can you clear this up for folks? it s very simple. to put it diplomatically prosecutor general shulkin was not going after corruption. and in fact he was not going after the firm where vice president biden s son was on the board. and he was being criticized for that by the ambassador at the time. and biden had a very strong interest in reform in ukraine. and he used the influence he had to help remove shulkin. but it wasn t just biden who wanted shulkin out. the eu wanted him out. all the reformers in ukraine