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people with the j&j vaccine. that s a 1,100,000. those are just the cases that we know of and those 95 cases were serious and they result a clinically. it does suggest that given the choice i would suggest one of the other instead. john: did the math myself and came up with an incident rate of .008% which seems insignificant. we were suggesting that the signal is very strong here because of the seriousness, the severity of the cases? yes. one in 100,000 cases and that s just what we know of. it is notoriously unreliable. it is the yelp of vaccines and you know rating system, not everybody will go online and report a complication. john: and some report applications that may not be associated either.

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