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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20211215 11:30:00

i still think the man is january 6th was the single most important day of the year. thank you. out of 365 days. time missed it. the most important day to democracy in a century. exactly. we re talking about the 1850s. now we re talking about january 6th, 2021. that s the historical parallel. thank you. that is what cannot be missed. i m still gobsmacked. i don t know who the runners-up were. i m hoping it s what we mentioned. doesn t matter. the doctors. bad choice. i do have to say, at some point, somebody really needs to stop and give a bow to the federal judiciary. make no mistake about it, madisonian democracy did work. the first branch was corrupted by donald trump. the second branch, let s not even talk about it. the federal judiciary stepped up, and they stepped in the gap. they provided the check and the balance to save this democracy. any of them would have been good.

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20211215 12:16:00

respected, revered figure, that they have attached it to. they need to be talking about this all the time and invoking john lewis legacy. i don t understand the lack of urgency. i never have. peter baker, we were showing the new york post, daily news. daily news this morning having don jr. doing the right thing. yeah. didn t see that coming. begging his father to stop. all these other members begging his father or begging don jr. s father to stop what was going on january 6th. now, you have liz cheney, who is you look at her movement. you look at what she s doing on the committee. he is clearly trying to set donald trump up for a criminal charge for obstruction. well, i mean, these text messages are so powerful, of course, because they re voices in the moment, in the midst of this crisis, in the midst of this emergency, and show that

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20211215 11:24:00

colleges and universities. blessed to be able to. so blessed. to be on the campuses and learn. it really does, it kind of makes me angry that there s so many people that would have loved to have gone there in their place and used those degrees for good. and this isn t ideology. be a conservative. i m a conservative. but don t be illiberal. it is there where you learn about democracies. don t do this phony populism that we can see right through. it s such a sham. and it s rich, entitled, connected, ivy league snobs that are playing down to people across middle america, making their lives worse. they re doing this phony populism to give tax cuts to billionaires, to make sure that people that run the biggest tech companies don t pay taxes. it s just repulsive. the worst is donald trump. here s this ivy league guy that

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20211215 11:42:00

donald trump and his organization are quickening and, in fact, he may be in real legal jeopardy now? i do get the sense they are quickening. i don t think it ll be another year or more. i think it ll be decided within the next few months. the problem here is new york law. the reason most of these cases, white collar crime cases, are prosecuted federally is there is a better federal law for prosecuting bank fraud. new york law, you have to make charges about false statements, falsifying a business record, that are low-level felonies. they also require proving this level of intent. it s a complicated case. it is not often used under new york law. that s one of the reasons why this is taking so long. all right. david, thank you so much. appreciate it. senators raphael warnock s impassioned plea. if lawmakers can change the filibuster rules to raise the debt ceiling, why can t they do

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20211215 11:13:00

time about efforts to overturn the election. on november 4th, a member of this body wrote to meadows, here s an aggressive strategy. one day after the election. why can t the states of georgia, north carolina, pennsylvania, and other republican-controlled statehouses declare this is bs? conflicts and elections not called that night and just send their own electors to vote and have it go to the scotus, the supreme court of the united states. how did this text influence the planning of mark meadows and donald trump, to try to destroy the lawful electoral college majority that had been established by the people of the united states and the states for joe biden? those are the kinds of questions that we have a right to ask mark meadows. we need also to ask him about text messages, which he provided to our committee, that show an

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