me, okay? you need 218. that s the number you need if you want to be speaker of the house. it could be fewer, technically; if members vote present or other members are absent from the floor for medical or other reasons. but whatever you think of the freedom caucus, for opposing kevin mccarthy or whatever you think of mccarthy s record, in the end, this is a number s forward game. mccarthy, you could argue, has had months to muster the votes he needed. after three days of voting, he came up 20 shy and that was 11 votes. now, the numbers still aren t budging. as for mccarthy s opponents, they claim they re standing on principles and i understand their points, they don t yet have an alternative who himself or herself can gather the requisite 218 either. that s where we are. so this process is messy. you kind of don t want to look at it at times. but it is what it is.
in on this christmas eve eve. i want to take a look at what den henninger writes about this in wall street journal. he said immigration and biden i title 42 catastrophe. progresses have the realities of governing turned inside out. since the beginnings of organized society, the practical requisite for progress has been maintaining civil order. they have demoted order to a secondary concern, if that. juan, let me start with you. we see the pictures every day from our bill melugin and griff jenkins and others. there doesn t appear to be much civil order at the border. the numbers of people crossing are historic, epic. we keep hearing it. it seems like the administration could put a stop to it if they wanted to. what do you say about that? well, i mean, i have much respect for dan henninger. i think he s terrific. the concept of justice and order of closely related and
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we have a significant issue. it s a national security crisis. all hands ought to be on deck. trace: when you say national security, micah, what do you mean? if you can t get an education, we all know it s a bad problem down the road. absolutely. if you cannot get an education and how can you take advantage in the new economy? how can you take advantage of working in the aerospace or defense industry? what about the trades, requisite of the trades, math. so we have to ensure that our students are ready for our economy. we cannot simply rely upon folks from outside the u.s. to provide service or we have to build capacity within urban as well as rural america. trace: i want to play this sound bite from the education secretary today, miguel cardona, concerning the nation s report. look, i m saying this is not a wake-up call for us to double down our efforts and improve
and he s trying to get pence to not count of the votes. he was told that law was not in his favor. my mind goes to criminal intent. we are not getting to the point of telling raffensperger 11,700 votes. we are not getting to the fact that he sat watching tv for three hours gleefully while the mob out there was ransacking the capitol. there are so many ways to get at criminal intent here. they are all reinforcing. i am a little more optimistic. i m going to throw something back at you. you wrote an op-ed for the washington post calling about the implication of the 25th of men and. you can pull a president out of office with a non fit to serve anymore. do you think trump did not have the mental fitness? he didn t have the requisite intend to overturn this election? no. what i m saying is that he was a narcissistic a sociopath who