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And age. its something that, a, isnt true, b, isnt intimidating or daunting to us in any way, shape whatsoever. im excited with the fact that we have a president that likes closing dealings. he thinks bold, thinks big, wants to act, andme wants to ge to the finish line and is constructive in doing that. >> reporter: youve been arguing your plan will inspire people to buy coverage because the premiums will go lower. the cbo says theyll go up, just not as quickly as premiums under obamacare. how m...