Some sort of rewriting of history but i wonder what you make of the conservatives who have been lobbying on those. >> i don't nope if byron saying that out of ignorance or cynicism. what we know is his own marriage was not legal in the state he lives in until 1969. we know that as he's talking about black voters were mostly conservative, the very first civil rights martyr were voting civil rights activists. >> byron is from florida. >> he's from florida, right. and if you look at the black poverty rate during jim crow was more than 55%. when they say those things they're clearly not talking to black people. even though this was at a black
And then, lyndon johnson, and you go down that road and we are where we are. >> republican congressman byron donalds of florida made those comments describing jim crow as a unifying time for black families and lamenting the landmark programs enacted in the 1960s to help low income americans. back with me are nicole hannah jones. dahlia lithwick. people have accused your seminal text of being some kind of rewriting of history. but i do wonder what you make of the conservatives who have lobbied the same criticisms absolutely rewriting the civil rights era and great society programs. >> yeah. i don't know if he is saying that out of ignorance or cynicism. what we do know is his own marriage was not legal in the
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we had all republican witnesses at our hearings and they still cast doubt on our investigation. so they are moving the goal post for whatever works for donald trump and we will continue to see these allies continue to aggravate and get bigger and bigger over the next few weeks. >> the interesting thing for me in this moment, molly, is how much of a stain donald trump is on everything. everything. and it's interesting, the new yorker had a nice note about the rewriting of history in which it noted rewriting history is one of the signatures a trumpism, as it is of so many totalitarian political movements. the republicans dare to dissent from this instant new orthodoxy. their lockstep statements made one long for the old bipartisan cliches about the sanctity of the courts and the wisdom of a jury made up of one's peers. and for me it speaks to the underlying truth here that he is such a stain and is so much
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mind. certainly that's what i have done on the campaign trail, and that's what i want to ensure that the biden campaign is doing as well. >> and so it sounds like you share some of the concern that we heard there from congressman clyburn. what about three years now from january 6th? you were in the capitol that day. you are a former cia officer and you tweeted this weekend extensively about it saying, look. i expected to maybe be under attack one day, but never in the people's house. never in the capitol. there is polling that now shows that more republican voters approve of what happened on january 6th now than did in 2021, and fewer strongly disapprove of that. how do you explain that? >> it's a very dangerous rewriting of history. it is a very dangerous rewriting of history, frankly in part because some of those who have the strongest voice with these voters, republican-elected members of congress have walked
that day as one filled with love and the rioters and insurrectionists now as hostages. i think it is really important to understand, not all of this rewriting of history, it's not only about looking back. it's about looking forward. it's not just trying to undo the stain of that day. it is basically sending a signal to trump supporters, a response to losing the election and i think the message for 2024 is pretty clear and pretty ominous. >> and trump has been out campaign trail this week. he's whitewash go, rewriting history. let's listen to what that to say. >> the hostages, go the j-6 hostages. nobody has been treated ever in
urgent question of our time. that's what the 2024 election is all about. the choice is clear, donald trump's campaign is about him, not america, not you. donald trump's campaign is obsessed with the past, not the future. he's willing to sacrifice our democracy, put himself in power. >> is a democracy still america secret cause? as we mark three years since the that the attack on the capital, it's a question we must ask ourselves. in the three years since the insurrection, both colorado and maine at determined that the former president has engaged in insurrection and, yet, donald trump and republicans have spent the last three years rewriting is three and trafficking in conspiracy theories. here is what president biden had to say about that. >> trump said that there was a lot of love on january the six.