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not succeed in taking the people off the streets because we're tired of the stick trying to show that. taking the stand global lose that matters d. w. made for mines. and the other. human rights. d.w. . hello and welcome to the just like here on d w i'm matt herman. absolutely wild match day fifteen is in the books coaches in coaches out and snow snow snow with me to talk it all over our two top flight guests we've got richard goltz former goalkeeper for hamburg and freiburg and a very own alexander pitch from the us legal team here's what we've got coming up the. bottom club cologne got off to a late start due to heavy snowfall will their new coach mean a new winning direction or more of the same old same old. and after dortmund fired coach peter bosch after yet another loss what do you know they turn to colognes old coach payton who was out of work for less than a week much more on that in our sunday conversation. first we got a little bit more about our guest who's joining us for the very first time richard goltz played in goal for hamburg for eleven years he made two hundred seventy three appearances and then made a move down south to fribourg where he had another long run and he then finished up his playing career with an over. and you know it's actually not the first time he's been on d w here are kick off team did an interview with him many years ago i have to say you're holding up quite well richard and i do have a surprise for you our very own alexander flitch has met you before he was the opposing goalkeeper for sydney and off when you played for table beilin you sixteen's him a youth league thirty five years ago all that you guys reminisce a little bit after the broadcast but first we've got to turn to cologne if you paid any attention to the bundesliga this season you know that they're not off to a good start and probably underselling it with just three points heading into match day fifteen the billy goats went into their match against on the verge of history if cologne lost they would be off to the worst start in bundestag history so how did they fare in their first game under. back let's find out. stefan who wouldn't back face a tough task in his first game in charge of bottom side cologne and not just because of the weather his team began brightly in the early dominance paid off when you look at clinton and that's at the open in the eight minutes i've. freiburg he and schuster then found syracuse c. in the books the penalty spot had to be uncovered before going to see could fire first both goal of the season if cologne kept up the pressure even in the snow and soon it was three nil up to just thirty minutes the i'm lucky own goal scored by candidates time i still believe the newspaper since smashed in your recovery is free kick leaving colognes t.-mo horn with no chance. that b. was again the provider on sixty five minutes this time going to kaba heading into make it three two i began to implode and sonny a shot and gave away a spot he wished he'd just think about it on ninety minutes i was right but we're not done with their remarkable comeback and in injury time give us he's humble that's another penalty peterson competes in his hat trick. one of the most extraordinary but it's the against ever summed up rock bottom colognes bizarre season. well well well it's time for our sunday conversation here on match day fifteen with me our former band is the goalkeeper richard gulfs and our very own alex rich. i want to start with you you've played in some snow games before you probably know how difficult these conditions make it for players you have any memories of strange things happening there's of course. when i was in five book. it was a false lead team and we were playing no it was only ice and it was impossible to play but the referee said we have to play and we did it but we didn't find the right set up and that's why we lost. you know cologne they can't blame this all on the snow and ice and they did take a three delay they gave it up. this at this point this is a historically bad team they are worse than tasmania berlin in one thousand nine hundred sixty five was at this point is this the worst bundesliga team you guys have ever seen. i would say it's not the worst team but. it's the team with the worst record so it would be a humiliation for tasman abilene to compel them to cologne by an all. speaking volumes all right we're going to have to leave this for one side because we do have some interesting news pertaining to cologne a paper stoeger of course the former coach of the billy goats scarcely had time to return his company car after getting fired in cologne last weekend he got a call from dortmund on saturday night asking if he'd like to take over for paige a boss and believe me i think he said yes to that offer in a hurry the austrian coaches are contracted dortmund through to the end of the season. so the coach who went fourteen matches without a win at cologne gets hired to take over for a coach who went eight matches without when. at dortmund richard does this seem like a good idea to you. when i heard this message a message today i need some minutes to think about but i think it would be a good idea because the. dog won't play the first matches in this season without difference. and if you look at the current the last four years they always were well organized. and this is the key to to win the matches and i'm sure they will play better if it's if it is good enough to qualify for europe we will see but i think it's a good idea because we're going to get the opportunity. to to stay longer than six months and you know maybe he's coached in the next you we shall see yeah you know maybe if you just shave a goal off of all these dormant performances they might have won a few more games alex this. you were talking before the broadcast we might as well bring it up that the problems at dortmund might go a bit deeper than just their coaches yes i think you know peter student must have thought that if they are keeping him when they when they get the call to take over dortmund but i think. should consider their management rather the coaches they have now hired their fourth coach in four years this is definitely not the consistency you are expecting from a top team and i think that i really don't want management. has to be taken into account as well and. they've should consider some changes there as well michel talk and alex is coming for you all right we're going to leave this conversation one side for a moment because we still have two more matches from sunday to cover we're going to check in on her to berlin hope to bounce back from a late last last week and they face today with a surging out spork but first going to find out how hanover fared at home to hoffenheim did i mention we had more weather. snowy conditions welcome tough and hot i mean one of and the guests had the ball in the net first. but it's not damon miry strike was ruled out for offside. kind of his more direct game plan paid dividends after the break. was the quest to clue poking home sali of sunday's head off. and they sealed it to no win on eighty five minutes heartache rising highest following a set pace. his first victory in five games. put hosted heads of bellin looking for their third consecutive win and after a number of mis chances they made the breakthrough in the seventy four minutes. you'd be with is good goal of the ses in. but victory was snatched away at the death substitute salomon kalou scoring in injury time equaliser. having to settle for a one one finish. write our sunday conversation continues here on match day fifteen i'm here with for openers the goalkeeper richard goldstone and our own alex french you know one topic we haven't touched on guys maybe it's because they didn't play today they played yesterday but they are one of the good stories in the bundesliga always buy in munich they are now guaranteed to go into the winter break on top of the league for what feels like the umpteenth time they won the last five titles they are what eight points clear at the top of the league it looks like a six titles within their grasp is their dominant starting to hurt the bundesliga alex i think yes well of course you cannot criticize the team because it plays too too well but if you have a look at europe's i. the top leagues in spain in italy specially in england you have to until up to five teams that seriously each and every year can compete for the championship. the only league in europe where you have a dominant team. is france with paris and i think it's not only hurting the competition in the bundesliga we had bad results in europe for the bundesliga clubs all over the plane. but it's also a bad for buying i think in the seasons they had to compete the most in the bundesliga they also perform the best in europe and the the easier it was in the bundesliga for them the worry is somehow it when at the european level here and this is really a somewhat new situation for the bundesliga i mean i want to make this distinction clear that you know in your playing days which run from you know the late eighty's until the mid two thousand you know bahrain were a very good team they won plenty of titles but they were a super team and they didn't just sort of you know smack the rest of the legal around like they didn't last five years how have they gotten to that next level i mean are you afraid of buyer you know we're not afraid or we were afraid but i think they always had a good team and most of the time they were focused full but. because of that they build up these special mentality this. and everyone in the club is full of self-confidence and shows it to the other and i think this is a good reason why. they were so successful and then most of the time they made the right this is wrong this other clubs have period some good periods but over the last twenty or thirty years they always made the right things yeah you can't blame a club for making the right choices that is full time for them honestly see you again on tuesday for part one of midweek when this legal action. would ensue one the man who's in the john nichol furnished houses then repeat. from the after the burger the best discarded. expects. the best of the business and. entered the conflict zone confronting the powerful for years now australia has faced the powers of criticism over its treatment of refugees now it has a seat on the un human rights council and the pressure is intensifying my guest this week is alexander downer the country's high commissioner how does he justify a policy so widely condemned around the world. in sixty minutes on d w. d w media center see it find it period. discovered. video and audio podcast and language courses in the d w media center at media center dot w dot com. it was at a. human rights day on d.w. .
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