a lot of people that don't use caltrain they don't see that but you'll see on the slide the area half mark radius there are one hundred and 80 thousand jobs compared to other figures of jobs open fourth and king about a tenfold difference the other thing on the aerial part of the city this is a few years old the area north of market is built out not a lot of room to grow it's a long term grossly goal to shift into the south of market neighborhood. you saw this slide earlier during adams presentation but it shows that we're having tremendous success many buildings underway and another 8 residential buildings south of the district plan in the rincon point hear so the shifting development of south ward this is a major generate our of the revenues for the attributing project it was parcels we're able to sell and those revenues go toward the funding of the project and a tax increment from the tjpa that's zones one and 2 the 6 red dots are the parcels that were up zoned so again, it's been discussed that up zoning allows for taller building to be built and their worthy a lot more money and in exchanges for the benefit they have to agree to participate in the cf d special property tax so this specifics we'll receive 82.6 percent of those revenues. and just before i go into those numbers in a little bit more detail quickly we've had apace two budget that was at roughly $2.6 billion and the revision we found the bid approach that amount will increase to $3 million and it's potentially a private-public partnership be weeping we'll reduce those costs but a $3 billion it's $130 million at to accommodate one of the city's goals they're interested in bringing the tracks from the south bay underground in mission bay street and that $20 billion allows us to build a tunnel so if the tunnel goes through it will be easier to build and list disrupt to rail alienations. side to side to the 2008 budget in the middle column you have the regional plan bay area that's the transportation plan that was passed by m t c in july of 2013. we had a big success in the area that relates to the overall fund we were designated as the regional priority that was a long term goal for tjpa it's the largest funding stream that exists and the way it works your regional metropolitan planning committee they designate the priorities our region a typically carried to new start priorities based on what the region as historically receives. many, many years it was bart to other agencies that was from the planned bay area those two slots opened up one went to d t x and the second bart so we're going to receive $600 million the way we assess those is to see how long we quickly we work with the city aligning up the other fund. and this m t c committed to providing $300 million for the bridge toll for the d t x that puts us at $950 million we had one hundred million that was funds we've received that's a total of over $1 billion and the way the numbers translate your heard earlier the 9 hundred and a 98 net bond precedes from the cf d we've received 82 percent that's 8 hundred and 18 million if we use $18 million that will leaf for phase two will be $618 million >> when you add those together we're at $196 billion. >> just a few questions now we're on slide 36. so the total current projector and let me back up. this project to the transbay terminal even though we call it phase one and two we're not going to build something massive and not send a train to it, it's incongruous acceptable there's no way we would agree to build that terminal without the few information we'll wish having that train go throwing so fast two the fact on my roll at the m t c helped to come up with a reasonable mou stating wire doing the rail to downtown san francisco when regionally there was a push to say fourth and king was good enough and we put our foot down and is said no way. we're on a positive path i have serious concerns about the funding we committing to making it happen but because the significant costs increases we're seeing money funds that would have been used for d t x moved over to the terminal itself. in terms of the d t x the current budget is $3 billion >> under the traditional design bui built. >> yep. and you said how much >> the of 50 in new starts once we'll move through the $300 billion increases for m t c you add the $600 million there's a a couple of others to rounding run through. >> obviously the funding is contingent on the bridge toll increases b will have to go to the voters. >> yeah. itself it path forward. >> absolutely and also with my there's not on a larger transportation project in the country that hadn't costs in determining whether the highway system or the bay bridge we understood the costs change by so in terms of looking at accident slides number that 36 phases one and two in terms of the proposed use of the mel ruse cf d there's $118 million available for phase one and two and this indicates that $618 million will be going to phase one and then the phase one in terms of the cost overruns that's why the funds are going to phase one. >> it's due to the two adjustments i've mentioned the rb a and is additions to our other project. >> otherwise would have gone to downtown extension. >> yeah. >> the $618 million for phase two when tjpa analyze this the train box being built in is that considered phase 1 or 2. >> that's where the $200 million will be going to its going for the component o exponent of the d t x but for the train box. >> is there anything in the transbay center considered phase two or is that phase one. >> theirs certainty components in the transbay center not being built out we have our senior program manager here to explain. >> i want to know what's need insides the center that's phase two. >> i'm the senior program manager for the tjpa. if you consider phase one for on the populations then the green box is part of the phase one is for phase two use. >> right but being paid for by the phase one budget. >> the terminal box is much more. >> i understand. >> so there are other items that are phase one and two are the escalators and elevator we go up and down and some of the electrical systems that will be used by both phases. >> so my question is in terms of what's inside the terminal center out the the phase two budget kwhats the cost? >> 62 hundred, sir repeat and in terms of traditionally when we think of the phase one we think about the train so anything within the transit center out of the phase two budget what's the total amount of money? >> i don't know that information. >> i'd like to know that information. >> can i just. >> we went over - can i just- so we talked about the phase one and two budget what might be detailed for the box and terminal i heard we're detailing some of the security cameras the trains might not needs that details but nothing on the actual that building itself you could. >> there's nothing being delayed supervisor kim our correct the deferns over the electrical elements required for phase one that's for phase two we're going to defer that to phase two the cameras in the lower concourse we're striving to have those but deferring to phase two we put the cameras in the train box but will be obsolete. >> if i could get something within the four walls or how many other walls that are being paid for to be transparent my concern being the given the increase in costs for phase one every time costs increases in phase the one phase two costs come out of that. we're going to get this amazing project done and it will be amazing for the transportation please get those to us >> we'll be happy to. >> i know we've been and, of course, this is a question for the colleague there. >> some of the changes that have been made to the phase one project physical changes and changes to the budget due to the costs increases the removal of the park from phase one and then or the issue of the park and the public design amenities can you talk about that. >> yeah. the park is definitely stale part of ptosis phase one and ken rich said we're working with the mayor's office to get the park opened cellular a they and that's scheduled late 2017. >> how is the park being paid for . >> we're going to work with the mayor's office. >> i've heard $29 million gap is that the - >> the total amount direct and indirect. >> the total amount it $37 million. >> so through the grapevine you'll meningitis the $37 million for the parks will or may come out of the mel ruse a that's another $37 million less for the downtown extension is that fair. >> you said 16 is an equivalent amount. >> so 618 minus 37. >> you see sort of the pattern of my questions i'm concerned with since this project is it will be out of the ground zoo soon but there's plenty of opportunity for cost changes. i'm going to predict every time the cost change or some increased costs that's we've got this pot of money that would have been $818 million to downtown and now down to 6 hundred plus million dollars now the shortfall from the park comes out of the mel ruse you down to 581 i see the number diminishing and diminishing further you know urge to get to the next page and i know you'll get there i know you're as passionate about the dp x i want to make sure we're not shooting ourselves in the foot by viewing the mel ruse you funds instead of trying to gaud them, you know, zealously for use in the d t x, x but use them to make up shortfalls i'm concerned it might be used to pay for the parks. it's the easy way out to take it out of the mel ruse >> i agree with you supervisor wiener we're surfacing a robust market we've got $6 million for the building of the transit center. it depletes the number of contractors that are able to bid that's if you have less contractors bidding it becomes harder. we've come up with a thirty miles mitigation plan cost reductions but i agree with we need to deal with the construction confidence increases >> the costs so in addition to the park issue we have to go into the downtown extension funds to make up the quest some of those costs are toubl to me a to make this a masterpiece so talk about the measures. >> and what they total in costs. >> the proposal the plan we presented to the board at muni it talked about the phase two. >> is that - that's going to be paid out of phase two. >> it's deleting the costs. >> it will be paid for out of the downtown costs and if we need it this is electrical work that is above but we during phase two we'll very visit it and see if it's necessary or not the park is $5 million so we've looked at the need for phase one and reduced our scope for the information technology and the irrigation plan we know what we need as he mention we've deferred some of the equipment and the xhaerments from phase one to two we want to make that simpler. we also removed the glass concrete covering this is g f r.c. to reduce concrete make it nicer we'll paint the concrete and take other measures to achieve some results. we've also number two, of using stainless steel we're going to use the galvanizing steel. we are reducing our ceilings designed to make p that more off the shelf and designer made. we're redesigning some of the barriers on the bus tech it has a steel barrier and we're going to replace that by a steel barrier so a lot of the cost reductions the public will be able to use the park and this transit center >> it won't look as good. >> well, it will be very nice. >> in terms of those cost-cutting measures that will impact sort of the aesthetics and experience that people not the transit experience but the experience of people insides the center using the center what's the total costs in terms of the downgrading of those aesthetic amenities. >> presidential approximately 10 to $15 million of the numbers it's in that range if you take the electrical scope. >> so we'll get that list so see the phase two and some of the amenities and the total of the amenity that have been downgraded to save money? >> we like to call it valley jerry. >> if i call it either one. >> supervisor kim. >> thank you. just wanted to talk about since we're talking about phase the one budget the largest increase was not the construction but the r v and the security plan. i know it's a point i've brought up over and over to the joint powers authority board i know we've it look at outing how to take a to the a the increases largely match the dollar for dollar that's a place we should continue to examine the board has questions we had one consultant look at the plan and it's a difficult position for us we don't want to sacrifice security, of course, a very dense area of downtown it didn't help the department of homelands security for what that means it's important to look at that. i'll add that i'm happy to see we'll have an altitude oversight that manages prongs in the city what's particularly telling the projects starting around the savings time same time as the general hospital when the cost of were lower. what supported the general hospital staying on time and under budget was the fact their bids are not or went out earlier and our bids have been detailed we can't cry over split milk but it's best we have as many have our best thinkers in the room in terms of how we can reduce some the costs so there's a major concern we know we'll get phase one done but not at the expense of the terminal d t x. >> sir. >> certainly we agree, of course, on the importance of phase two as we move forward with ptosis phase two we have not creating a situation we can't move forward with that phase but some of the things in the pipeline we'll have to bid toward a future bridge tolls some of the funds for the mel ruse. i mentioned the property tax increment that is committed to the project that flows from 2005 to 2050 and although the redevelopment agencies have been developed that's considered a enforceable obligation we're using those funds to repay one hundred and 71 million for phase one, however, the number of tax increment over the 45 year period is much more than we need to repay the $171 million so our financial advisors say depending upon when we seek out a second loan it would be in the area of 3 to $40 million. we're going to expend the period of those that property tax increment is allocated to the project even though redevelopment has dissolved to the plan are will expire in 2050 the property taxs will be collected and we will allocate those from 2050 to 20060 that generates another million dollars and we're going to look at down the road when the d t x is implemented collecting the passenger fees a that's the as far on the tickets for high speed rail that depending on with it begins could generate several hundreds of million dollars and we've got two parcels that are valuable pieces of land in downtown san francisco we can't sell because it's the temporary terminal and the sequa second for construction phasing so that's on the $120 million so adding that you can see a path towards having a considerable amount of phased two that funding lined up and if we look at a different method like a public-private partnership it would be possible to reduce those costs and many of the funding streams i've mentioned do flow over time so could lend themselves to an availability payment so we could use o for a milestone payment >> one final question in terms of the arrangement i guess that's in place with dpw as supervisor kim mentioned how do you see that impacting the main project we obviously want to make sure we can't predict the cost overruns it's the nature of the transportation project but how do you see that in a completion of the project with dpws roll. >> we welcome their expertise to work with or mitigate our risks and deliver a project that is as closed to budget and possible so we welcome their avoidance. >> the director of dpw was just appointed to our board. >> thank you continue with our presentation. >> sir, did you want to complete our slide presentation. >> the last slide is what i went through the completion of the funds. >> thank you very much. mr. rich >> that concludes my presentation. >> so mr. rich i have a question for your. how are we going to pay for the park the $37 million how
revenues and the 3 hundred and 10 adjustment that leaves the monies that were going to be receiving from the mel ruse $28.5 million towards the construction of the park and another 2 hundred million from the mel ruse. phase two is the tunnel it connects the tunnel into king and the new transit center. on this map first of all, you see alignment 4.3 miles going up targeted downtown i up to the new trait center another thing the need for the d t x extension a lot of people that don't use caltrain they don't see that but you'll see on the slide the area half mark radius there are one hundred and 80 thousand jobs compared to other figures of jobs open fourth and king about a tenfold difference the other thing on the aerial part of the city this is a few years old the area north of market is built out not a lot of room to grow it's a long term grossly goal to shift into the south of market neighborhood. you saw this slide earlier during adams presentation but it shows that we're having tremendous success many buildings underway and another 8 residential buildings south of the district plan in the rincon point hear so the shifting development of south ward this is a major generate our of the revenues for the attributing project it was parcels we're able to sell and those revenues go toward the funding of the project and a tax increment from the tjpa that's zones one and 2 the 6 red dots are the parcels that were up zoned so again, it's been discussed that up zoning allows for taller building to be built and their worthy a lot more money and in exchanges for the benefit they have to agree to participate in the cf d special property tax so this specifics we'll receive 82.6 percent of those revenues. and just before i go into those numbers in a little bit more detail quickly we've had apace two budget that was at roughly $2.6 billion and the revision we found the bid approach that amount will increase to $3 million and it's potentially a private-public partnership be weeping we'll reduce those costs but a $3 billion it's $130 million at to accommodate one of the city's goals they're interested in bringing the tracks from the south bay underground in mission bay street and that $20 billion allows us to build a tunnel so if the tunnel goes through it will be easier to build and list disrupt to rail alienations. side to side to the 2008 budget in the middle column you have the regional plan bay area that's the transportation plan that was passed by m t c in july of 2013. we had a big success in the area that relates to the overall fund we were designated as the regional priority that was a long term goal for tjpa it's the largest funding stream that exists and the way it works your regional metropolitan planning committee they designate the priorities our region a typically carried to new start priorities based on what the region as historically receives. many, many years it was bart to other agencies that was from the planned bay area those two slots opened up one went to d t x and the second bart so we're going to receive $600 million the way we assess those is to see how long we quickly we work with the city aligning up the other fund. and this m t c committed to providing $300 million for the bridge toll for the d t x that puts us at $950 million we had one hundred million that was funds we've received that's a total of over $1 billion and the way the numbers translate your heard earlier the 9 hundred and a 98 net bond precedes from the cf d we've received 82 percent that's 8 hundred and 18 million if we use $18 million that will leaf for phase two will be $618 million >> when you add those together we're at $196 billion. >> just a few questions now we're on slide 36. so the total current projector and let me back up. this project to the transbay terminal even though we call it phase one and two we're not going to build something massive and not send a train to it, it's incongruous acceptable there's no way we would agree to build that terminal without the few information we'll wish having that train go throwing so fast two the fact on my roll at the m t c helped to come up with a reasonable mou stating wire doing the rail to downtown san francisco when regionally there was a push to say fourth and king was good enough and we put our foot down and is said no way. we're on a positive path i have serious concerns about the funding we committing to making it happen but because the significant costs increases we're seeing money funds that would have been used for d t x moved over to the terminal itself. in terms of the d t x the current budget is $3 billion >> under the traditional design bui built. >> yep. and you said how much >> the of 50 in new starts once we'll move through the $300 billion increases for m t c you add the $600 million there's a a couple of others to rounding run through. >> obviously the funding is contingent on the bridge toll increases b will have to go to the voters. >> yeah. itself it path forward. >> absolutely and also with my there's not on a larger transportation project in the country that hadn't costs in determining whether the highway system or the bay bridge we understood the costs change by so in terms of looking at accident slides number that 36 phases one and two in terms of the proposed use of the mel ruse cf d there's $118 million available for phase one and two and this indicates that $618 million will be going to phase one and then the phase one in terms of the cost overruns that's why the funds are going to phase one. >> it's due to the two adjustments i've mentioned the rb a and is additions to our other project. >> otherwise would have gone to downtown extension. >> yeah. >> the $618 million for phase two when tjpa analyze this the train box being built in is that considered phase 1 or 2. >> that's where the $200 million will be going to its going for the component o exponent of the d t x but for the train box. >> is there anything in the transbay center considered phase two or is that phase one. >> theirs certainty components in the transbay center not being built out we have our senior program manager here to explain. >> i want to know what's need insides the center that's phase two. >> i'm the senior program manager for the tjpa. if you consider phase one for on the populations then the green box is part of the phase one is for phase two use. >> right but being paid for by the phase one budget. >> the terminal box is much more. >> i understand. >> so there are other items that are phase one and two are the escalators and elevator we go up and down and some of the electrical systems that will be used by both phases. >> so my question is in terms of what's inside the terminal center out the the phase two budget kwhats the cost? >> 62 hundred, sir repeat and in terms of traditionally when we think of the phase one we think about the train so anything within the transit center out of the phase two budget what's the total amount of money? >> i don't know that information. >> i'd like to know that information. >> can i just. >> we went over - can i just- so we talked about the phase one and two budget what might be detailed for the box and terminal i heard we're detailing some of the security cameras the trains might not needs that details but nothing on the actual that building itself you could. >> there's nothing being delayed supervisor kim our correct the deferns over the electrical elements required for phase one that's for phase two we're going to defer that to phase two the cameras in the lower concourse we're striving to have those but deferring to phase two we put the cameras in the train box but will be obsolete. >> if i could get something within the four walls or how many other walls that are being paid for to be transparent my concern being the given the increase in costs for phase one every time costs increases in phase the one phase two costs come out of that. we're going to get this amazing project done and it will be amazing for the transportation please get those to us >> we'll be happy to. >> i know we've been and, of course, this is a question for the colleague there. >> some of the changes that have been made to the phase one project physical changes and changes to the budget due to the costs increases the removal of the park from phase one and then or the issue of the park and the public design amenities can you talk about that. >> yeah. the park is definitely stale part of ptosis phase one and ken rich said we're working with the mayor's office to get the park opened cellular a they and that's scheduled late 2017. >> how is the park being paid for . >> we're going to work with the mayor's office. >> i've heard $29 million gap is that the - >> the total amount direct and indirect. >> the total amount it $37 million. >> so through the grapevine you'll meningitis the $37 million for the parks will or may come out of the mel ruse a that's another $37 million less for the downtown extension is that fair. >> you said 16 is an equivalent amount. >> so 618 minus 37. >> you see sort of the pattern of my questions i'm concerned with since this project is it will be out of the ground zoo soon but there's plenty of opportunity for cost changes. i'm going to predict every time the cost change or some increased costs that's we've got this pot of money that would have been $818 million to downtown and now down to 6 hundred plus million dollars now the shortfall from the park comes out of the mel ruse you down to 581 i see the number diminishing and diminishing further you know urge to get to the next page and i know you'll get there i know you're as passionate about the dp x i want to make sure we're not shooting ourselves in the foot by viewing the mel ruse you funds instead of trying to gaud them, you know, zealously for use in the d t x, x but use them to make up shortfalls i'm concerned it might be used to pay for the parks. it's the easy way out to take it out of the mel ruse >> i agree with you supervisor wiener we're surfacing a robust market we've got $6 million for the building of the transit center. it depletes the number of contractors that are able to bid that's if you have less contractors bidding it becomes harder. we've come up with a thirty miles mitigation plan cost reductions but i agree with we need to deal with the construction confidence increases >> the costs so in addition to the park issue we have to go into the downtown extension funds to make up the quest some of those costs are toubl to me a to make this a masterpiece so talk about the measures. >> and what they total in costs. >> the proposal the plan we presented to the board at muni it talked about the phase two. >> is that - that's going to be paid out of phase two. >> it's deleting the costs. >> it will be paid for out of the downtown costs and if we need it this is electrical work that is above but we during phase two we'll very visit it and see if it's necessary or not the park is $5 million so we've looked at the need for phase one and reduced our scope for the information technology and the irrigation plan we know what we need as he mention we've deferred some of the equipment and the xhaerments from phase one to two we want to make that simpler. we also removed the glass concrete covering this is g f r.c. to reduce concrete make it nicer we'll paint the concrete and take other measures to achieve some results. we've also number two, of using stainless steel we're going to use the galvanizing steel. we are reducing our ceilings designed to make p that more off the shelf and designer made. we're redesigning some of the barriers on the bus tech it has a steel barrier and we're going to replace that by a steel barrier so a lot of the cost reductions the public will be able to use the park and this transit center >> it won't look as good. >> well, it will be very nice. >> in terms of those cost-cutting measures that will impact sort of the aesthetics and experience that people not the transit experience but the experience of people insides the center using the center what's the total costs in terms of the downgrading of those aesthetic amenities. >> presidential approximately 10 to $15 million of the numbers it's in that range if you take the electrical scope. >> so we'll get that list so see the phase two and some of the amenities and the total of the amenity that have been downgraded to save money? >> we like to call it valley jerry. >> if i call it either one. >> supervisor kim. >> thank you. just wanted to talk about since we're talking about phase the one budget the largest increase was not the construction but the r v and the security plan. i know it's a point i've brought up over and over to the joint powers authority board i know we've it look at outing how to take a to the a the increases largely match the dollar for dollar that's a place we should continue to examine the board has questions we had one consultant look at the plan and it's a difficult position for us we don't want to sacrifice security, of course, a very dense area of downtown it didn't help the department of homelands security for what that means it's important to look at that. i'll add that i'm happy to see we'll have an altitude oversight that manages prongs in the city what's particularly telling the projects starting around the savings time same time as the general hospital when the cost of were lower. what supported the general hospital staying on time and under budget was the fact their bids are not or went out earlier and our bids have been detailed we can't cry over split milk but it's best we have as many have our best thinkers in the room in terms of how we can reduce some the costs so there's a major concern we know we'll get phase one done but not at the expense of the terminal d t x. >> sir. >> certainly we agree, of course, on the importance of phase two as we move forward with ptosis phase two we have not creating a situation we can't move forward with that phase but some of the things in the pipeline we'll have to bid toward a future bridge tolls some of the funds for the mel ruse. i mentioned the property tax increment that is committed to the project that flows from 2005 to 2050 and although the redevelopment agencies have been developed that's considered a enforceable obligation we're using those funds to repay one hundred and 71 million for phase one, however, the number of tax increment over the 45 year period is much more than we need to repay the $171 million so our financial advisors say depending upon when we seek out a second loan it would be in the area of 3 to $40 million. we're going to expend the period of those that property tax increment is allocated to the project even though redevelopment has dissolved to the plan are will expire in 2050 the property taxs will be collected and we will allocate those from 2050 to 20060 that generates another million dollars and we're going to look at down the road when the d t x is implemented collecting the passenger fees a that's the as far on the tickets for high speed rail that depending on with it begins could generate several hundreds of million dollars and we've got two parcels that are valuable pieces of land in downtown san francisco we can't sell because it's the temporary terminal and the sequa second for construction phasing so that's on the $120 million so adding that you can see a path towards having a considerable amount of phased two that funding lined up and if we look at a different method like a public-private partnership it would be possible to reduce those costs and many of the funding streams i've mentioned do flow over time so could lend themselves to an availability payment so we could use o for a milestone payment >> one final question in terms of the arrangement i guess that's in place with dpw as supervisor kim mentioned how do you see that impacting the main project we obviously want to make sure we can't predict the cost overruns it's the nature of the transportation project but how do you see that in a completion of the project with dpws roll. >> we welcome their expertise to w
caltrain they don't see that but you'll see on the slide the area half mark radius there are one hundred and 80 thousand jobs compared to other figures of jobs open fourth and king about a tenfold difference the other thing on the aerial part of the city this is a few years old the area north of market is built out not a lot of room to grow it's a long term grossly goal to shift into the south of market neighborhood. you saw this slide earlier during adams presentation but it shows that we're having tremendous success many buildings underway and another 8 residential buildings south of the district plan in the rincon point hear so the shifting development of south ward this is a major generate our of the revenues for the attributing project it was parcels we're able to sell and those revenues go toward the funding of the project and a tax increment from the tjpa that's zones one and 2 the 6 red dots are the parcels that were up zoned so again, it's been discussed that up zoning allows for taller building to be built and their worthy a lot more money and in exchanges for the benefit they have to agree to participate in the cf d special property tax so this specifics we'll receive 82.6 percent of those revenues. and just before i go into those numbers in a little bit more detail quickly we've had apace two budget that was at roughly $2.6 billion and the revision we found the bid approach that amount will increase to $3 million and it's potentially a private-public partnership be weeping we'll reduce those costs but a $3 billion it's $130 million at to accommodate one of the city's goals they're interested in bringing the tracks from the south bay underground in mission bay street and that $20 billion allows us to build a tunnel so if the tunnel goes through it will be easier to build and list disrupt to rail alienations. side to side to the 2008 budget in the middle column you have the regional plan bay area that's the transportation plan that was passed by m t c in july of 2013. we had a big success in the area that relates to the overall fund we were designated as the regional priority that was a long term goal for tjpa it's the largest funding stream that exists and the way it works your regional metropolitan planning committee they designate the priorities our region a typically carried to new start priorities based on what the region as historically receives. many, many years it was bart to other agencies that was from the planned bay area those two slots opened up one went to d t x and the second bart so we're going to receive $600 million the way we assess those is to see how long we quickly we work with the city aligning up the other fund. and this m t c committed to providing $300 million for the bridge toll for the d t x that puts us at $950 million we had one hundred million that was funds we've received that's a total of over $1 billion and the way the numbers translate your heard earlier the 9 hundred and a 98 net bond precedes from the cf d we've received 82 percent that's 8 hundred and 18 million if we use $18 million that will leaf for phase two will be $618 million >> when you add those together we're at $196 billion. >> just a few questions now we're on slide 36. so the total current projector and let me back up. this project to the transbay terminal even though we call it phase one and two we're not going to build something massive and not send a train to it, it's incongruous acceptable there's no way we would agree to build that terminal without the few information we'll wish having that train go throwing so fast two the fact on my roll at the m t c helped to come up with a reasonable mou stating wire doing the rail to downtown san francisco when regionally there was a push to say fourth and king was good enough and we put our foot down and is said no way. we're on a positive path i have serious concerns about the funding we committing to making it happen but because the significant costs increases we're seeing money funds that would have been used for d t x moved over to the terminal itself. in terms of the d t x the current budget is $3 billion >> under the traditional design bui built. >> yep. and you said how much >> the of 50 in new starts once we'll move through the $300 billion increases for m t c you add the $600 million there's a a couple of others to rounding run through. >> obviously the funding is contingent on the bridge toll increases b will have to go to the voters. >> yeah. itself it path forward. >> absolutely and also with my there's not on a larger transportation project in the country that hadn't costs in determining whether the highway system or the bay bridge we understood the costs change by so in terms of looking at accident slides number that 36 phases one and two in terms of the proposed use of the mel ruse cf d there's $118 million available for phase one and two and this indicates that $618 million will be going to phase one and then the phase one in terms of the cost overruns that's why the funds are going to phase one. >> it's due to the two adjustments i've mentioned the rb a and is additions to our other project. >> otherwise would have gone to downtown extension. >> yeah. >> the $618 million for phase two when tjpa analyze this the train box being built in is that considered phase 1 or 2. >> that's where the $200 million will be going to its going for the component o exponent of the d t x but for the train box. >> is there anything in the transbay center considered phase two or is that phase one. >> theirs certainty components in the transbay center not being built out we have our senior program manager here to explain. >> i want to know what's need insides the center that's phase two. >> i'm the senior program manager for the tjpa. if you consider phase one for on the populations then the green box is part of the phase one is for phase two use. >> right but being paid for by the phase one budget. >> the terminal box is much more. >> i understand. >> so there are other items that are phase one and two are the escalators and elevator we go up and down and some of the electrical systems that will be used by both phases. >> so my question is in terms of what's inside the terminal center out the the phase two budget kwhats the cost? >> 62 hundred, sir repeat and in terms of traditionally when we think of the phase one we think about the train so anything within the transit center out of the phase two budget what's the total amount of money? >> i don't know that information. >> i'd like to know that information. >> can i just. >> we went over - can i just- so we talked about the phase one and two budget what might be detailed for the box and terminal i heard we're detailing some of the security cameras the trains might not needs that details but nothing on the actual that building itself you could. >> there's nothing being delayed supervisor kim our correct the deferns over the electrical elements required for phase one that's for phase two we're going to defer that to phase two the cameras in the lower concourse we're striving to have those but deferring to phase two we put the cameras in the train box but will be obsolete. >> if i could get something within the four walls or how many other walls that are being paid for to be transparent my concern being the given the increase in costs for phase one every time costs increases in phase the one phase two costs come out of that. we're going to get this amazing project done and it will be amazing for the transportation please get those to us >> we'll be happy to. >> i know we've been and, of course, this is a question for the colleague there. >> some of the changes that have been made to the phase one project physical changes and changes to the budget due to the costs increases the removal of the park from phase one and then or the issue of the park and the public design amenities can you talk about that. >> yeah. the park is definitely stale part of ptosis phase one and ken rich said we're working with the mayor's office to get the park opened cellular a they and that's scheduled late 2017. >> how is the park being paid for . >> we're going to work with the mayor's office. >> i've heard $29 million gap is that the - >> the total amount direct and indirect. >> the total amount it $37 million. >> so through the grapevine you'll meningitis the $37 million for the parks will or may come out of the mel ruse a that's another $37 million less for the downtown extension is that fair. >> you said 16 is an equivalent amount. >> so 618 minus 37. >> you see sort of the pattern of my questions i'm concerned with since this project is it will be out of the ground zoo soon but there's plenty of opportunity for cost changes. i'm going to predict every time the cost change or some increased costs that's we've got this pot of money that would have been $818 million to downtown and now down to 6 hundred plus million dollars now the shortfall from the park comes out of the mel ruse you down to 581 i see the number diminishing and diminishing further you know urge to get to the next page and i know you'll get there i know you're as passionate about the dp x i want to make sure we're not shooting ourselves in the foot by viewing the mel ruse you funds instead of trying to gaud them, you know, zealously for use in the d t x, x but use them to make up shortfalls i'm concerned it might be used to pay for the parks. it's the easy way out to take it out of the mel ruse >> i agree with you supervisor wiener we're surfacing a robust market we've got $6 million for the building of the transit center. it depletes the number of contractors that are able to bid that's if you have less contractors bidding it becomes harder. we've come up with a thirty miles mitigation plan cost reductions but i agree with we need to deal with the construction confidence increases >> the costs so in addition to the park issue we have to go into the downtown extension funds to make up the quest some of those costs are toubl to me a to make this a masterpiece so talk about the measures. >> and what they total in costs. >> the proposal the plan we presented to the board at muni it talked about the phase two. >> is that - that's going to be paid out of phase two. >> it's deleting the costs. >> it will be paid for out of the downtown costs and if we need it this is electrical work that is above but we during phase two we'll very visit it and see if it's necessary or not the park is $5 million so we've looked at the need for phase one and reduced our scope for the information technology and the irrigation plan we know what we need as he mention we've deferred some of the equipment and the xhaerments from phase one to two we want to make that simpler. we also removed the glass concrete covering this is g f r.c. to reduce concrete make it nicer we'll paint the concrete and take other measures to achieve some results. we've also number two, of using stainless steel we're going to use the galvanizing steel. we are reducing our ceilings designed to make p that more off the shelf and designer made. we're redesigning some of the barriers on the bus tech it has a steel barrier and we're going to replace that by a steel barrier so a lot of the cost reductions the public will be able to use the park and this transit center >> it won't look as good. >> well, it will be very nice. >> in terms of those cost-cutting measures that will impact sort of the aesthetics and experience that people not the transit experience but the experience of people insides the center using the center what's the total costs in terms of the downgrading of those aesthetic amenities. >> presidential approximately 10 to $15 million of the numbers it's in that range if you take the electrical scope. >> so we'll get that list so see the phase two and some of the amenities and the total of the amenity that have been downgraded to save money? >> we like to call it valley jerry. >> if i call it either one. >> supervisor kim. >> thank you. just wanted to talk about since we're talking about phase the one budget the largest increase was not the construction but the r v and the security plan. i know it's a point i've brought up over and over to the joint powers authority board i know we've it look at outing how to take a to the a the increases largely match the dollar for dollar that's a place we should continue to examine the board has questions we had one consultant look at the plan and it's a difficult position for us we don't want to sacrifice security, of course, a very dense area of downtown it didn't help the department of homelands security for what that means it's important to look at that. i'll add that i'm happy to see we'll have an altitude oversight that manages prongs in the city what's particularly telling the projects starting around the savings time same time as the general hospital when the cost of were lower. what supported the general hospital staying on time and under budget was the fact their bids are not or went out earlier and our bids have been detailed we can't cry over split milk but it's best we have as many have our best thinkers in the room in terms of how we can reduce some the costs so there's a major concern we know we'll get phase one done but not at the expense of the terminal d t x. >> sir. >> certainly we agree, of course, on the importance of phase two as we move forward with ptosis phase two we have not creating a situation we can't move forward with that phase but some of the things in the pipeline we'll have to bid toward a future bridge tolls some of the funds for the mel ruse. i mentioned the property tax increment that is committed to the project that flows from 2005 to 2050 and although the redevelopment agencies have been developed that's considered a enforceable obligation we're using those funds to repay one hundred and 71 million for phase one, however, the number of tax increment over the 45 year period is much more than we need to repay the $171 million so our financial advisors say depending upon when we seek out a second loan it would be in the area of 3 to $40 million. we're going to expend the period of those that property tax increment is allocated to the project even though redevelopment has dissolved to the plan are will expire in 2050 the property taxs will be collected and we will allocate those from 2050 to 20060 that generates another million dollars and we're going to look at down the road when the d t x is implemented collecting the passenger fees a that's the as far on the tickets for high speed rail that depending on with it begins could generate several hundreds of million dollars and we've got two parcels that are valuable pieces of land in downtown san francisco we can't sell because it's the temporary terminal and the sequa second for construction phasing so that's on the $120 million so adding that you can see a path towards having a considerable amount of phased two that funding lined up and if we look at a different method like a public-private partnership it would be possible to reduce those costs and many of the funding streams i've mentioned do flow over time so could lend themselves to an availability payment so we could use o for a milestone payment >> one final question in terms of the arrangement i guess that's in place with dpw as supervisor kim mentioned how do you see that impacting the main project we obviously want to make sure we can't predict the cost overruns it's the nature of the transportation project but how do you see that in a completion of the project with dpws roll. >> we welcome their expertise to work with or mitigate our risks and deliver a project that is as closed to budget and possible so we welcome their avoidance. >> the director of dpw was just appointed to our board. >> thank you continue with our presentation. >> sir, did you want to complete our slide presentation. >> the last slide is what i went through the completion of the funds. >> thank you very much. mr. rich >> that concludes my presentation. >> so mr. rich i have a question for your. how are we going to pay for the park the $37 million how >> again you don't know i don't have an answer today, i,
a oats signage on the roadway are together and like to put a small pitch in to at least conceptual lists the enhancement when we look at pier 70 because the frontier is there we don't want to push what works well into that area because the great possibility a few days ago the design was approved i encourage you to take that into your conceptual thinking it has to be a one long experience. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. along those same lines something i think that is not being discussed here but should be looked at the t line extension which is what a lot of people are talking about it makes up because it allows pier 70 and far north to access the yes, ma'am baker by the streetcars and urging the tomb open massachusetts so much and one more source of people getting there without having to use cars or without having to use buses that go through the grid of the city that's important and the other thing we have to look at is we did years ago the embarcadero freeway which fortunately is no longer around i remember traffic being stopped open the embarcadero freeway because everyone want to use that rather than other modes of transportation there's heavy traffic but not completely stopped as was the case with the embarcadero we want to take into consideration the traffic flow because the "x" to your memory relies upon people that want to drive because of the educational issues have to drive and other businesses along the embarcadero depends on parking we have a balance things carefully and the use of the western side makes sense because it is underutilized we can use some of the pedestrian traffic and although this is water under the bridge the traffic open pacific and jackson didn't happen decided by the voters but would have opened up a couple of streets to embarcadero you can't now. >> commissioner johnson. >> i look at this with my shining hat on but as a mission bay resident and i'm wearing my first day of clothing the embarcadero is how i usually get from the south side of the city to the north side i have a few comments i want to echo commissioner president wu comments on how you engage lower to middle-income residents one of the things as part of talking about the schematic design is the street furniture looking at ways to engage the community when the cost of goods is a barrier to people enjoying the embarcadero that's not a lot else to do by walk really far or stand or continue walking, you know, there's not a lot to do but to spend money and buy something so ways people can engage with the embarcadero that aren't involving transmitting yourselves from one place to another than easier ways to walk from the embarcadero to somewhere else i want to talk about the bike way i'm going to try to get to the workshops i'll give a couple of ideas and if it's okay to say this. the first one is in terms of bike way design so i know i don't know if this is considered a bike way but in golden gate park there's the protection is parked cars it's scares the jesus out of me every time i've rind that i feel like something is going to happen well, no it's not a common thing and so if we're looking at the western side of the street as a potential option for a one or two bike way we need to continue to have some of the parking issues on the west side of the street yeah. the east side there's not a lot don't do the parked cars as the separation item and the second i don't know again how your process is going to work but i think there's ways to have low hanging fruit to increase the comfortable for bikers and pedestrians with the cars that's a separate issue how to moderate that but speaking to cyclists and pedestrians one of the things there are people who are recreational and cyclists maybe going forward and they are trying to get from point a to b-1 of the options is that may be considered is looking at specialized lighting for bikes so for example, on the waterside of the street of ime embarcadero there are multiple places for stltsz and cars this makes sense there are traffic turning left but not slowing the class two bike latent print that are there and we end up having people with the traffic flow they keep going and we can talk about this later technically they're running a red light and people don't do it as often or not paying attention or obtaining traffic laws and people answering around them otherwise being in the bike lane so the low hanging fruit to consider the lights for the cyclists along the waterfront and embarcadero. and then the final point that i wanted to make in terms of commissioner moore's comment on sort of having a continuance flow of cyclists down third street is crazy to ride down third street i go that sometimes but a lot of times i'll drive it's dangers but i remember open ocii we spent time talking about the green bike way will go from the golden gate bridge to bayshore so i think one way of maybe making that connection is to again with the low hanging fruit look at the low transition areas across the flow and particularly north bay a flash point street and the that might be against low hanging fluting fruit last point on the bike way i would consider if you're going to do a bike way on the waterside of embarcadero keep the bike lane that's industry and make it two-way and the other way on the sidewalk and this will have a separation you don't have cyclists up on the street running into pedestrians thank you very much for listening. >> commissioner fong i'll try to not repeat. the embarcadero in the 40s were is a thousand times better than what it was in the 80s when you wanted to get around the city you would take embarcadero and it's a different word and a better world. there are i don't think anyone has talked about the tourists but a maintain bike lanes in san francisco largely out of the union square and fisherman's wharf. so on commissioner jomgz thoughts on bike lanes we need to keep the bike lanes consistent i get existed about the situations. but this is great i think it's a long time coming i spent a number of years with the port commission and let's get this done >> thank you. >> commissioners that place you on item 8. on the 325 fremont street request for a downtown authorization and variance >> good afternoon rich department staff this is a downtown authorization on fremont street f that includes new construction of 0 residential tower up to one hundred and 18 dwelling unit and parking garages. under the downtown authorization it is seeking the planning project authorization and the proposed project is seeking variances to address the requirement for open space and permit obstructs from the street and overall the proposed project will construct one hundred and 2 thousand square feet up to one hundred and 18 dwement the project includes the volume mix of 4 of one bedroom unit as he studio units it includes 4 thousand 86 secret of open space and the improvements and the roof-deck and private open deck space to the balconies they're related to there. the planning commission approved two things but the project is a new project plan on the site. since the publication of the packet the department has two letters of support for the proposed project that have been provided there is no support or opposition. the project is elected to provide the affordable housing fee i've submitted a revised motion it's bans 17 percent of the total number of dwelling units in the section. this revised motion provides information on the stabilization fee. after analyzing all the aspects the department asks for the general policies of the general plan and the project is located in a zoning district where new residential is permit. the project proposed a new demonstrate that has a significant improvement including trees and sidewalk lighting and other landscape features it has a hiring program and adds one hundred and 18 new dwelling units and proposes a parking zoning for 41 off-street parking for the 59 off-street parking parking spaces and will pay the zoning fees are the project sponsor is present and that concludes my presentation. and i'm available for any questions >> thank you project sponsor. >> hi, i'm adam and i'm here with my colleagues. i want to welcome commissioner johnson and this is my first hearing addressing the commission. crescent heights is a long-term believer in san francisco and we had the mid-market and rincon point is having a renaissance we did the metropolitan there we continue to be in the present of 45 lansing and hope to be in the future with 25 fremont that has a friendly character of the neighborhood. with that, i'm going to turn it over to glen to talk about the design. >> hello commissioners. thank you for having us we're excited to present this project to you today 325 fremont is a unique it's one of the last remaining sits in the hill sites it's a 25 story tower 25 stoirts with one hundred and 18 units as you see from the site plan it's located on fremont street very close to fulsome street and it's central located it's a centrally oriented project due to its distance from the transbay terminal and market street. again, it's centrally located with high-rises surrounding it from the siert plan more closely you see that two projects in yellow are 399 froement and the project across on the next side are two towers gouging the red site is our project that will complete the entire length of fremont from harrison to fulsome as a residential community. this is two existing photographs the first one is looking at the corner of fremont and fulsome. 333 to the right of the site was just completed and then the photo op you're right is zoo no alley it's 17 feet wide is a vehicular entrance and the pedestrian path of travel we're going to enhance this. as upper noted earlier the plan has basically two parking stalls in terms of the ratio and those are car stagers the site is 55 hundred square feet a very tight site we're you're going escalator lifts to take the cars down on the ground floor we have bike parking one hundred and 5 spaces by parking on the lobby leveling and at the top we have our common roof garden that's a open space requirement for the residents. a view of the building the inspiration so far the architect of the building was basically inspired by the architecture and the imagery of the bay bridge and the silvery tones. the material for the building is a metal panel a perforated metal panel that surround the elms of the building and simply carved out with window walls that create shade and shadow and take down the heat gain of the building tremendously had happens on both sides on the east and west side. this is the ground floor plain iowa's one of the things we're trying to had had greenery up in front by cigarette butt the industry and making that pedestrian friendly we're widening the sidewalks as well as down to the corner where that meets fulsome. we're also enhancing the backside of the alley we're enhancing that only our portion of the building to the extent extending it up 0333 that has a enhance down to fulsome street this is part of the development package in kind for providing the greenery we want to finish the entire block and make it a better place for the neighborhood and even though neighboring buildings. as well as you can see the bike storage a off the main lobby. this is a view of the elevation looking at 33 to the right and fulsome to the left. those are images of what we anticipate for that alley the fact that is alley is that narrow we're looking at vertical planning department and some latin-american features above so we address the alley as a more pedestrian friendly experience. a typical plan you see the wall that allows us to create some techniques spaces within the unit and creates nice visuals looking at out it's no a flat wall another typical floor with balconies it's interesting the balconies shift from one side to the other along the facades that allows the idea to create shade and shadow. this is a close-up view of that some of the materials is the perforated the handrails done b with cable rail trying to bring the inspiration of the bay bridge and how to meets the water it's a silvery effect we're trying to effect go the silvery blue with the place. at the top of the building our outdoors common space we've created it because the site is 6 thousand square feet not much room for common space but on the top floor to allow people to have the amazing view the bay and the city. as you see on the left-hand side of the detailed photograph the carve out that allows people to have the distance the other thing we've extended the mechanic wall the skin of the building up thirty feet to hide the mechanic equipment and all the fans and allow for wind protection doss because you're at two-hundred and 40 feet that will be a comfortable area for residents enjoy this is from rhine come north to the transbay district and the financial district as arithmetic we don't get this challenge but 6 thousand foot of floor play it is a a slefrnd way its unique about the building in the district this other buildings are much bigger and wider this is a slender eloquent light detailed building we think it's going to be pretty exciting especially how the sun plays against that with that, i'll thank you if you have any questions >> first public comment if that's the end of the presentation. okay ac public comment on this item (calling names) >> good afternoon, commissioners joel san francisco electrical construction industry. i'm here on behalf of the local 6 and the san francisco electrical contractors association we're really eager to get started on this project we're here in support. thank you. >> commissioners michael with the san francisco building and san francisco trade commission it's been a while thank goodness we've been busy but what's important to speak on behalf of crescent heights they've been a consistent partner and they've supported us in other ways it's been clear our pension has been given us good returns that's, of course not a planning decision that's a good project that the modifications and the variances they're seeking are minor. and we applaud the provision of more housing to san francisco generally but also the 17 percent towards affordable housing. so thank you for your time and we support this project >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners aim rob pool the painting at the san francisco housing coalition crescent heights presented this to our committee earlier this year and we enforced the project we think its great they've made use of a small site that maximize missing the site and we're excited about the public realm with the sidewalk lynn and the new edition of street trees. overall i think this will be a great edition to rhine con hill i hope you approve that without delay thanks >> thank you. >> sue hester public utilities on the backside of the staff report is a series of questions i've posted you should flip over and go down them. there are questions that need to be asked. as we were widening up rincon point what's the mix of housing we're getting this this area and what is the mixed of housing in terms of people that are bona fide occupants and people have that money to have multiple housing units. i'm dealing with this area in various cases a lot of people buy houses and don't live there their various heights of housing. hoa's in general don't have rules against how you use your housing the hoa's are not monitored by planning department. i think the last of the summer interims left but an academic study should be done using consequence data of how many places are real primary housing that we're building here. who is being served there's a meeting twoiks of the rules committee between mayor lee's proposal and supervisor kim building the housing construction. most of the housing needs in the city in terms of major numbers i think you probably have that in our packet as well we need 60 percent of the housing needs to be waimd r working class what is being built in rincon point you need to ask those questions if not no one will answer them we require answers. i'm also aware that people who have good have parking they figure out a way to have parking no one is required to tell you what deals they have made for providing parking in another location because we as a city told them at the can't have it on spot nice theory i hope it works but if not where are they parking. air quality i didn't have it on this questionnaire near or in their the bay bridge of input air quality. i know you should ask questions >> thank you. is there any additional public comment okay seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner antonini >> i think this is an excellent project and have famous with rincon point it's a source of exercise most nights when i go for runs and walks this is completing it, it's important as pointed out there were two previous paralyze with the lower building and this is more appropriate 2 hundred and 50 feet because of tower separation, you know, there will be distances between the towers has there should be but more comparable with the turns over on the street in the vicinity of 4 hundred feet 399 and also 340 is pretty tall and, of course, the recent completed building adjacent to it is lower because of the tower separation that's ascetically good and the second thing i think they're doing us a big favor of going in lieu tons the projects they're not being built
reconnect the site the city and region with the rapid bus and he worked closely with the developer and the hunters view project committee and the san francisco planning department to certify the environmental impact report for the project in 2010 he drafted the community benefits plan to allocate more $3 million for the benefits to dine to improve the qualifying quality of life for the hunters view it included $27 million and 8.9 for the workforce development fund and $10 million for upgrades to existing educational certifies and for a health services and a scholarship fund and the continuation of the assistance insurance program for the bayview contractors it has dedicated space for the international marketplace he initiated the land agreement were the port of san francisco and the california rec and park for the purpose of securing the land he set the tone with the navy's environmental clean up and in challenging situations where it can effect the timeline. in 2008, mr. lawson got a brown field grant for the hunters point shipyard he administered $20 million for the construction of the first new building on the hunters point shipyard including an incubator he accepted on behalf of the project team the award from the northern california of the planning association for the projects environmental impact report and in 2011 he submitted a white paper easterner the projects designation as anyone of the best investment in the united states he worked closely with the eir staff to help with the financing. in 2013 he was promoted he managed community process balancing the public needs and the capital negotiations with strategies and seeking project financing and insuring good financial practices he led the candle stick streetscape and had the replacement unit of the development he helped with two with o 3 new parks and hotels. mr. lawson participated at 2 hundred and 50 workshops held on every aspect and those railroad for about the board of supervisors and agency he the ocii commission and other city commissions the hunters point shipyard advisory committee and the bayview hunters point and the neighborhood association and this alice griffith and other groups. now tobd therefore, be it resolved it is for his success and the office of community investment and infrastructure. (clapping.) >> thank you very much mr. lawson what you like to say a few words? >> i would like to say a few words knowing we have limited time it's dog years those 6 years have been incredible and it's an interesting time in my career i want to thank e and commend the people in the room who are the people in the commission who took on this winding down agency that's not doing much is completely not true my family and people behind me helped me to have those years that's been critical to be able to do that specifically director boo he for acting as a mentor and it's an incredible once upon a time, opportunity one of the things when the agency start over at city hall and the - we were throwing out all the records from the 50s and 60s and 70s the work is awesome when you have an opportunity to look at the legions of the shipyard managers and the all the people who have worked here the work is awesome it's incredible the type of impact and only for the hoults of the people this is a major lifetime opportunity and very, very hard to leave i have to tell you but i appreciate everyone for supporting me. >> thank you. >> thank you (clapping.) know i didn't ask this before can we poufrn them back let's take public comment. we have 3 speaker cards please could. the podium in this order (calling names) >> members of the commission i really hate to rain on the parades i'm going to speak as a private citizen on my way to the hearing i found this poster (laughter) i want to verify that makes sense to what we see here. but no, this is a topple of my gratitude and an expression of my wish for his future endeavors thank you very much >> (clapping). >> thank you. >> i'll keep this brief since there's is a lot of speakers i had an opportunity to hear about wells before i worked with him when i worked at the city of berkley he heard his reputation and we both ended up in ocii and before i worked ever on candle stick point hunters point shipyard we got to work on the islander base plan that's when everyone a lot of people here i see know wells expertise and real estate market but he's amazing and a community group settings. i'm going to keep it brief he is, you know, we get a lawful here but hiss he's amazing in a community meeting but in the india based setting when we heard him speak with the community recommendations is something we'll miss >> thank you. >> good afternoon. i'm a senior project manager we support agent i'm here on behalf of the association many are on vacation i had an interesting meeting are la bell shaw he is a friend of mine and he said i come forward to talk about him. affordable care act has gone through a lot of change and we need someone that has a common sense approach wells is that guy he's also smiling like on the picture he finds is way to amongst things and breakdown the most complex things to the community you don't see all the time. one of the things the board has told me that's our guy 2 hundred hundred and 51 meetings he's done 2 hundred and 51 calls they just rave about him all the time he's such a great guy are that i know if lavelle wasn't a good father and had to go to an appointment he'd be here with his kid to thank him for his commitment from a perspective i find it interesting to work with wells we work in immense environments with when you have someone with the commitment and our understanding we're severing some of the most vulnerable people it's refreshing to have someone like i am as a partner i'm not not happy to see him go i missed our party but we'll have to go out for a couple of drinks wells i appreciate our help all the late night phone calls lavelle told me about all of them we wish you the best in la we have folks down there, too we can connect you with >> thank you ethan walsh. >> i'm an assistant painting at ocii he had the privilege and pleasure of working with wells over the past seven months i arrived in san francisco sunday night with motorcycle bags but no motorcycle because it broke down in sanity crews and we started on the next day working with wells. from the beginning wells made my transition to san francisco so good he was my first friend in san francisco and continues to be i think a fingertip hopefully for the rest of my life and i didn't know what to expect of him the interview process by i was mroounl surprised when i walked into his office he positions himself to people couldn't walk into his office but he skwulgd the issue that the project prepared i hadn't encountered that i've learned a lot from him and consider my education from him important and thank you wells it's been a pleasure >> thank you. helen >> helen i'm the managers decorator and i think you the a wonderful job of talking about him also besides that i've been working with a bunch of commensurate agencies in particular the community gardener and hunters point where this is the hoiment and if there's ever a person who totally misunderstands what it meant to transform a neighborhood it's wells he took the time to stand one-on-one with ms. jackie in the garden and listen to her talk about the trees and he just licensed. and this is his approach. i'm sure there are wonderful candidates and i know will be incredibly difficult to replace someone about community it's wonderful to do the financing but from a service pro that he was someone who understand the needs of the community hesitate incredible whatever he ends up theirs incredibly lucky i'm sad to see him go >> (calling names). >> i'll be brief because everyone said so much of what was on my mind it's not often you find people in your life that has the balance of skill sets from the finance and real estate i find myself going to him about something and i say hey, he drops what it was doing and conceptually listing it not everyone can do that that's a gift for him. like mike was shocked when i heard he was leaving i thought weed be retiring together but wells secretary plan he's going to la but really hollywood we'll read about him in a photo shot with the mayor and on his own show. thank you wells thank you for your support and all the work during doing the entitlements and a lot of late night meetings is congratulations and good luck >> (calling names). >> as everyone said i'm sad to see wells leave i tried to remember when we worked together on prop c we were trying to pull documents together i was right after the joined the team as i was sitting in the office at 1 o'clock in the morning that was a great introduction to a project that was fast passed this is in big parts to the people we work with like wells lawson over the years he's been a great resource and knows about prongs he's been a great supervisor he'll be greatly missed. >> thank you any other public comment one more. >> vincent. >> doris vincent. ms. nixon told him to tell you she would have been here but i've made you some good i didn't and the plums is from my backyard i don't use any chemicals you need to wash them but they're wonderful and i wish you all the luck >> how can i get away from here without crying. okay anything from commissioners before we vote oppose the resolution and take a picture i have one >> commissioner singh i don't know too much to say but begin to know those guys i was one hundred then so (laughter) so we're going to miss you. >> i would add it that it's beginning to feel like our brain trust is hindu as i've said i've been impressed that the caliber of the staff and i feel a little piece of it is leaving it's sad. >> did i miss another party (laughter) i didn't get invited but i want to thank you. i was new to the commission and upper so patient gave me a tour so i appreciate that especially for someone new and not familiar with the area so i appreciate very much and wish our not going but, of course, there recent beginnings and ending i wish you all the good luck and don't forget to invite me to our party i i know it's in la i might go >> just real quick i've known wells the whole time i knew him he was in the mayor's office i would show up and document the irs and you can't why can't we do this and that and rather than kicking me out and not pull an all nighter they entertained my questioning questions i consider wells a friend. and i'm really going to miss him one last thing everyone has that talked his skill set he's extremely creative he that's a skill when you find someone you want to hold onto them he talked about the boyfriend why is it when you talk about the new demonstrates that's all chain stores and why can't stores come in and he said why not and came up with 10 ideas that's one example of a million just how much he cares and how creative we're going to miss him but not as much as i'm going to fly to la and hang out. let's make a motion on the resolution is there a monoxide >> thank you very much. madam secretary please call rule. commissioner mondejar. commissioner singh. commissioner rosales. chairperson johnson. madam chair the vote is 4 i's >> come on and get our photo and resolution (clapping). >> madam secretary next item. >> the next order of business commending and expressing christen jacque on community investment and infrastructure the decision and action for resolution 2014. commissioners and colleagues thank you for your indulge it's purely coincidental those are talented individuals that have begun they're separate ways. we serve those communities in san francisco and again with our inindulge i'll read your accomodation into the record it spanks to our chairperson johnson and christen i've known you when you were a volunteer and cac and your patience and good cheer that has been a pleasure to work with you you'll be sorely missed it's the planning commission great gain you'll see christen down the hall with that, i'll read here accomodation. whereas on december 6th mayor edwin lee appoint mrblgs has one of the founding members on the san francisco community investment & infrastructure commission the commission elected her the chair of the commission at the first meeting on december 18, '12 and served with a commitment to the mission of the office of the san francisco community investment & infrastructure commission as a successor agency to the san francisco redevelopment agency of promoting community and economic and physical demonstrate in blighted neighborhood and whereas during our tenure as chair she's supported and the commission approved numerous action inform implement ociis enforceable improvement of the collapse and affordable housing opportunities and quality of life in san francisco. with her oversight and approval ocii has taken action to the hunters point shipyard and mission bay and transbay project areas along with various continues action in the yerba buena center and rincon point south beach and whereas the founding chair the commission create following the san francisco redevelopment agency she oversaw the action of the ocii related to the former agency including the approval of multiple amendments 80 that created benefits for the city of chicago the commission to the state department of finance for the due diligence reviews for housing and non-housing assets which loudest eco e ocii to get a long term prompt management and the housing transferred to the city as the successor he housing agency and 3 recognized payment schedule and whereas beginning in may 2007 until her appointment to the commission he was appointed to the advisory committee and the hunters point shipyard project serving as at chair of the department community she spearheaded in partnership with the former agency the city and community-based organizations and chaired mostly meetings on the planning and financing of the hunters point shipyard in candle stick point project and whereas beginning in april 2010 she's served at president created by the former agency for administering new market tax inaccuracy credits and as president she developed a method for the community benefits and project and whereas throughout her tenure throughout the commission she's been a staunch advocate for the small business enterprise program to create each other and worked to make sure those contracting and affordable housing opportunities are successfully marketing or market to all community in san francisco. in particular ms. johnson has been a strong proponent to provide housing opportunity for homeless who were eligible to receive housing preferences through ocii certificate of preference program. now therefore, be it resolved the san francisco community investment & infrastructure commission on behalf of it's executive director and employees acknowledges the services that ms. johnson has provided to ocii and by this resolution expressed to ms. johnson it's appreciation of work well done and thanks for the dedication for public service and success in all her future endeavors >> okay. i'm still the chair of this meeting but thank you to the staff and fellow commissioners i'm proud to have been acknowledged by this administration and mayor newsom's administration for the work you've done and given the opportunity to serve a community with you served hunters point shipyard and treasure island i've not been there and taken the work and
far as them telling you it's like false advisement you, your telling me that is available and i know this is not like this is a model then thrills up front the apartment that you're applying is similar to this not going to have closets or you know certain things you're not going to have they're not be honest and up front and two the parking i'm like who going to who got $300 or $350 to pay parking every month i remember what's protecting housing i mean didn't that fall under low income housing why have we been mislead thinking this is the picture over here and all of a sudden they take it away and is we already picked what we want you to have that's my biggest issue. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hello, i'm carolyn i work to the veterans quality center at as outreach coordinator and i want to make sure there are bmr procedures that are amend we want to reduce the amount of barriers for the applicants we prepare for we talk about the language assess all the printed and online materials should be trained but i've spent time in line for 3 hours i've seen miscommunication between the staff and applicants who's who primary language is not english and there should be post lottery interviews also there should be a uniform policy on immigration status like with the developers with visa requirements and also the application itself when you pick up an application you actually get 14 pages only need to fill out 5 but 14 pages is overwhelming for folks whose primary language is not english we definitely think the application should be reformed we've seen there are some columns two small in the application when the folks cross it out like the application developer won't accept it because it's white out there's not a uniform policy so we rehave recommendations of how the application should be formatted it's similar to the 6 pages that oewd has but it's forbidden city not as dairnt to the applicants. >> may i ask a question. >> yes. supervisor kim. >> i forgot to mention bishop you've housed over 11 hundred people and thank you for being on hand to help people with applications i have a question about the language piece but also the mayor's office of housing prior and you mentioned it sometimes da can be challenging do you find their translated by the private developer. >> it's never been translated i've not seen a translated application i've had to assist people who speak spanish like in line language this is kind of me standing in line and meeting those folks. >> so you've never seen woven one of the applications in chinese or tagalog. >> we've had our own volunteers to translate when we do presentations for housing workshops but not one you can get off the website or pickup from a developer. >> have you asked did developer for the translated application before and no, i have have not. >> that was a question for her. >> how long have you been working in this capacity. >> i've been working for 2 years and other kind of rental area too. >> okay. >> next speaker. >> good evening supervisors and congratulations to supervisor cohen for another 4 years. >> thank you. >> i'm here i was here on another meeting upstairs with the capital planning committee that went through the infrastructure of the city and county well, i've got a lot of things to say but the friday morning there needs to be you might do this politically set aside for each individual groups i know there recent gaze and the asians and he everybody else when i'm up here advocating for the black african-american who has no representatives to talk to our people but i'm dealing with public housing which houses plenty of people now the young lady said this was her first year anniversary welcome to the city this is my 25th up u unpaid and serving the tenants of this community for over 25 years way before most of you were in city politics you call this city hall i call is silly hall hud all those different changes our talking about there was a hyde meeting with some of the supervisors held the meeting supervisor breed was very disappointed in hud and everybody else that was involved now roadway i'm here to tell the city olsen lee and ed lee there's a new era the city is broken your breaking and entering people from all over the country and not sit down and talk to people like myself not one time not one time have they come ask the expert that's okay. i'm going to file an injunction this is a new era and all those pope's people are coming and complaining but we as african-americans have been doing this over 25 and thirty years displaced and put together the self-corporation i forget but no one is going to ask me is question and olsen lee knows me and mayor ed lee i can't understand the city and county you go outside our city limits to answer the questions need is our community this is a new era and dog done it i don't have time i hope you have a meeting are olsen lee i'm asking for a meeting all hands on do everything we can and sit down so we as people from the community that have been here years can work with the new comers and the developers taking over public housing those nonprofits even in our district 6 ac/dc is in may be district they're in total violation so there's a new beginning yours truly eye washington i do not need our provision i have two generations under me. >> i'm sorry sir, your time is up madam clerk close the microphone. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> thank you, supervisors i'm gloria that resident at rincon point we're here to provide fenway about the 25-year-old program as you create new bmr programs we hope the city will help us to resolve the low income tenants and other bmr programs many other older bmr programs like ours it is important that the city duo more than create those but they should be justified to remain effective while the original developer promoted it the subsequent owners chip away to the it they've eliminated units and moved them to less nice locations they've also fourth our rights to distribute the meeting nos it was stated there shouldn't be two tiers of the apartments but they're clearly deteriorating some tenants have 25-year-old carpets and appliance noting none of the market rate apartments one has 25-year-old carpenter and has a rent increase of many hundreds of dollars a city inspector visited one bmr apartment and issued citations thank you. >> next speaker >> hi good afternoon. i'm laurel i also live on howard street and participate in the b m program bmr tenants have been denied leases and violation of the city housing plan words in the housing plan says tenants shall be provided leases the owners claim the word shall is different from the word must and city argue they're not rearview mirror to provide leases to their credit the redevelopment agency address this dispute several years ago but it has not been resolved and to increase the tenants sense of ensecurity in their housing there are glishz that mo h hats been unwilling to address include the bmr tenants being moved into higher rents places those rent increases can be as much as 40 percent we warned mo h this would happen they refused to address the problem the bmr tenants are vulnerable and many problems are caused by mo h insistence they only use hud ami to calculate the adjustments ami number is clearly out of sync with the economic and has brought about increases as high as 9 percent hyde has said the city should not use this ami there are plenty of accurate groups but mo h refuses to consider those alternatives annual rent you adjustments are supposed to match the changes in the ami yet there's a glazing (inaudible) in the process. >> thank you. next speaker. >> can we get this to the supervisors. >> you can also provide your full comments to the committee you were not able to finish. >> dave with the rents are increased by the same percentage when we've protested those that don't match the economy the city promises that the bmr rents go counsel to offset the increases it's at roller-coaster approach but the city didn't - it may sound like a bit of a stretch to accept the rent increases they're absolutely fair and necessary so long as mo h continues to use the erratic ami and mayor lee's mayor's office of housing are inconsistent the rhine con management and the bmr tenants have been urging the parolees manual now they're saying the manuals are not applying by management continues to use the manuals and they refuse to clarify this inconsistency we don't know the rules please remember those are income based relocate incomes to keep the workers in the city since they're in less desirable parts of the city it's better to have the workers butt put down their roots and there are needs to be stabilize lit we have had recommendations we're suggesting that a ssi on bmr matters be created to meet with mo h on a regular basis and the meetings are the director are need to resolve the current problems and recommend you hold a followup meeting and fourth since mo h has important dutsz there should be an oversight commission. >> thank you very much is there any additional public comment on item number 4 seeing none, public comment is closed. >> supervisor kim. >> thank you i actually had a few follow-up questions from the public comment that was made either to mr. benjamin or director lee terrors is the comment made by the member of bishop she's not seen a translated housing application form i don't know if you have a response i found out that stunning. >> well currently it - the requirement inform translate is in our outreach portion of - they have to translate outreach materials application is not in the list of stuff they have to translate we have to ask them to do that this is one of the things we're definitely changing in our next manual update. >> can we require that i'm shocked that we never required project sponsors to translate those are i never thought to ask that question i assumed we do. >> they'll tells us we asked the question and they is, yes we'll do that. >> can we summit that with their market plan. >> we'll definitely consider that that's definitely going to be in the updates of manual we'll work with our staff when we get get to that point. >> historically how is that we only require the marketing not the application. >> it didn't - they - an oversight i imagine. >> an oversight for 25 years. >> it wasn't into the outreach until the 2013 manual update. >> the 997 manual didn't speak at all to translation. >> i'll make sure that all the applications are translated i don't know how people have been applying this whole time without translating but a chinese town b mc or a metro. >> we certainly have we in the office have translated certain documents we understand the need to understand people need to understand what they're doing and the requirement so we have translated documents that we've done in house. >> yeah. they should be required and we should definitely work on that a couple of questions came up from the last set of public commenters on the bmr i know your office has been working with them on standards on workshops i was wondering about two issues though specifically one was you know whether bmr units are given to building employees that are maybe managers or employees of the building and that's kind of open the - >> that would be a violation of the city and the bmr unit has to go though the lottery system. >> maybe we can get more information from the residents of rhine con hill regarding. >> i say that but each development has a different rules and this was in the agreement that was made 20 years ago. >> it's one thing if you get into a bmr unit if they allow the residents to apply for jobs but i hope in their not straight away offering it to the employees jumping the waited list process second issue that came up that i had a question about the number of bmr units have been cut in half and at the rhinincon. >> they all they're on plans and its unique it allows for the developer or the owner to an a certain number of units that are affordable. >> i'm looking this one project is it the case at the rincon center were cut in half. >> yeah. the rincon plan is there a specific development disposition agreement there are bond issues for this particular development that had a certain number of units that are outstanding at the time as that time passed the units expired and the number of unit reverted to a number based on an prenegotiated housing plan and it's clearly not something that would be something we'll do today by. >> i appreciate that. >> it was negotiated as part of the redevelopment plan at the time. >> what happened to the tenants that natural kind of whether they left nor the mid-market rate or evicted. >> i don't recall what happened through attrition or what happened i think clearly you know at that time that development was negotiated all of the south beach advertisements were being negotiated south beach maria and the other vinyl, etc. as well as the selma center during a period where multiple family housing was development for the first time all of those building were perhaps with exception of the rincon center came in financial difficulties which sort of illustrated you know the newness of what the city was trying to do with the multiple single-family homes i can't explain why the redevelopment plan and those developments and disposition agreements were structured clearly to allow for the revitalization of that and the limited term of public benefit and clearly that's not the practices of ocii today nor is that the practice of the inclusionary units are restricted for 75 years or the life of the project. >> thank you, thank you i could probably ask a hundred more questions i'll refrain but also acknowledge there's a lot of work ahead of us but work in process we've accomplished this far and really look forward to continue the work with the tenants and the community-based organization and, of course, the mayor's office of housing and our office is working on the steps a policy we've been talking about the inclusionary dial and i know our office has been engaged with supervisor cohen office we know that inclusionary house will be built in district 6 and 10 and for members of the public that don't understand this issue we've heard from our constituents at lower medium income that those units at the 55 percent ami is too hyphae the medium working class is 575 percent that may not qualify for bmr ownership opportunities that are in the middle range they don't qualify for the bmr ownership so we're interested in moving forward on a policy dial to allow nor units at a slightly higher income and slightly lower for our low income residents i know a that's one step we're moving forward and second we want to work on a formation of below market rate completion workshop with the residents our stiff staff to hash out some of the conversations we're having on the translation of the documents and the number of gaze and what factors to allow you to get an automatic expansion and so the private of housing and finally introduce legislation that requires a collection of information about why resident are leaving it's a positive story but if there are repetitive patterns we're finding the nuisance and the types of lease violations that are causing ellis acted and middle-class residents that are losing their housing so we have an exception of what some of the challenges maybe so really want to thank everyone for coming out the residents and mayor's office of housing and colleagues not sure if you have other questions or comments. >> didn't look that way so would you supervisor kim like to file this or continue to to the call of the chair. >> to continue to the call of the chair. >> so the motion to continue item 4 to the call of the chair we'll take that without objection. thank you madam clerk, any other business before this committee? >> there's no further business. then we're adjourned . >> good afternoon, today is october 24th, 2014, and giants are in the world series playing in san francisco. we're
from what comes out of this first, if you will, pilot phase so the reporting requirements will tell us a lot. and we'll be very informative to the next steps going forward. that's feedback loop is something we want to give you detailed input on. but what's come out from this long process is now before you and the full board is a good compromise. thanks very much. >> thank you, mr. cohen. good afternoon, supervisors. congratulations, supervisor mar, for your brilliant reelection. and thank you, supervisor wiener, for bringing this up. as tim cohen said a little while ag i am concerned also. i do work a lot with the construction industry. i'm concerned if we only allow 375 units to be built, it ain't gonna happen because people -- bankers might say, you know what, this is great, but what's going to happen after this? [speaker not understood]. i'd like to say go forward but i think we really should think about expanding it. thank you. >> thank you. is there any additional public comment? seeing none, mr. chairman, may we close public comment? >> yes, public comment is closed. >> i want to thank everyone who came out today. i really want to particularly thank sarah short and also gail gilman from community housing partnership who wasn't here today who were very, very deeply involved in the negotiations and were really good negotiating partners in trying to work out this compromise. i also want to again thank president chiu who was also very supportive and helpful in helping all of us move to this process. i just had a couple final points. first of all, you know, i think we all -- a lot of people have it in our heads we would love for everyone to live in a single-family home or some really big spacious flat. and unfortunately that's not the reality of 2012 san francisco. very few people who are not fortunate enough to have bought or rented a large place a long time ago can afford to do that. it's just not an economic reality in san francisco and we need to be housing everyone, not just the people who are lucky enough to be able to afford or to have spent a long time living in a reasonably priced large unit. we also, as much as we all support public investment in affordable housing -- and i was a big proponent of proposition c, we're never going to have enough public affordable housing money to solve our housing affordability problem just through public investment. part of the solution, it will never be the entire solution, we have to be flexible and creative. and i also want to address i think a fallacy that's out there that we somehow don't have micro units right now. we have many, many micro units in san francisco right now and it's called roommate situation. this is referred to a little bit in public comment. how many 3 and 4 bedroom apartments do we have in san francisco where there are three, four, five, six or more roommates packed into those apartments, one or two living in a small bedroom with 3, 4, 5, 6 people sharing one bathroom, sharing one kitchen, maybe no living room converted into a bedroom. that's called a micro unit situation where you don't even have your own private bath and bedroom. this will provide people with their own living space and their own private kitchen and bathroom. i also completely agree with the point that was made that we need more family housing. we absolutely do. and we should be supporting that. but almost 40% of san francisco ans live alone as i mentioned at the beginning. and we need to be focusing on that segment of the population as well * . the two are not mutually exclusive. so, colleagues, this is a good compromise piece of legislation. although i agree with mr. cohen and with the planning commission that ideally obviously i introduced this with no cap on it and that would be my preference. but politics and legislation being the process that it is, we work together and we came up with what i think is a good compromise and i stand by that compromise. so, -- >> yeah, that came in too late. i don't think we can reopen public comment. >> okay. so, colleagues, first, mr. chairman, i'd like to move the amendments and then i would move to forward the legislation with a positive recommendation as a committee report to the full board for tomorrow. >> okay. let me first ask if supervisor kim had comments. >> first i want to address one of the comments from public comment. i just want to state that the hotel referred to on sixth and howard is slated for affordable family housing and it's already in movement. i think there was some stalling because of the dissolution of redevelopment and that's part of the -- soma redevelopment area plan. but the funding has been secured for the hotel. what slowed it down is the building is historic. we have some additional processes unfortunately. but it will be fulfilling a need in the south of market which is the need for more family housing, multi-unit housing. of course, affordable housing for families which is great. but i do just want to say as someone who has a lot of concerns about efficiency units, particularly the impact in the south of market where we already have a lot of density, and also questioning the market need for this type of unit, i do appreciate the compromise that was brokered and i just want to thank supervisor wiener and all the advocates for really coming together and putting forward a solution where we can test out this type of model of housing and see what the market demand is and kind of who inhabits this type of housing. i know it's a small amount, but i think it's a good start. so, i want to appreciate the work that went behind it. it was months and months of work. >> i want to just add also thanking supervisor wiener for working with the nine community-based organizations and affordable housing groups, also from planning and others that put a lot of work into this. i think there is a strong and firm safeguard that's really built into this compromise that allows flexibility in building more housing, but also is really sensitive looking at potential impacts and benefits of these types of smaller units. so, i'll be supportive. on the amendments, can we adopt the amendments without objection? thank you. and on the legislation itself as amended, as a committee report to the full board on november 30th, can we do that with positive recommendation without objection? thank you. thank you. thank you, supervisor wiener. thank you, everyone. mr. evans, i forgot to mention we're being broadcasted by sfgtv and the hard working staff, jessie larson and jeff rob son. i'd like to thank them. mr. evans, could you please call item number 4? >> item number 4, hearing to consider the initial project design of the proposed golden gate -- golden state warriors development on piers 30 to 32 and seawall lot 330, and update on the waterfront transportation network assessment. >> thank you. and the sponsors are supervisor jane kim and president david chiu. so, we're joined by supervisor jane kim on this item. supervisor kim. >> thank you, chair mar. thank you for agendizing this hearing today. as many of you know, last wednesday at the budget finance committee, we considered the fiscal feasibility of the pier 30-32 project which includes a potential arena with our warriors team back here in san francisco. the committee did determine that the project is fiscally feasible, but as many of you know, we do have a lot of concerns in the neighborhood as we move through this process. and, no, i called this hearing to readdress one of the current concerns that we've heard the most often regarding this project which is transportation. this hearing is the first of multiple hearings that i have requested to give the board periodic updates on the proposed golden gate warriors development project. this first hearing is just an informational hearing to consider the initial project design for the development on pier 30-32 with assessment of the transportation network very near and around pier 30-32. and i just also want to acknowledge today we do have [speaker not understood] the principal architect for this project. this hearing again gives us the opportunity to hear about one of the two top issues of concerns for constituents in the south beach rincon hill and mission bay neighborhood. the first that we occurred was transportation. this area is already a neighborhood that is quite impacted by the regular traffic of workers and commuters onto the bay bridge as well as the 2 80. we have a lot of questions in terms of what this new arena -- what is really the assessed impact that we believe might occur and what types of investments do we as a city need to make to address the demands. we have some of the highest collisions between pedestrians and vehicleses in the south of market. so, how will this project impact those rates? second, we asked questions whether we can support bike infrastructure in that neighborhood to increase bike circulation so folks can bike to and [speaker not understood]. third, we have questions about what public transit investment costs are and to meet the demands of additional gains in this neighborhood. we've already seen what muni has been able to do with giants home games. so, we have already some data analysis around what that might cost with additional warriors games. and i actually just want to bring up a point that one of my colleagues brought up last week at the budget committee meeting which i had not thought of, being that i don't represent outer portions of the city, but supervisor chiu brought up when we have giants home game night, muni doesn't run all the way to the sunset. i'm sure we experience that in other outer neighborhoods here in san francisco. the last issue of course that comes up often is the issue of parking and it's participants to games or other events circling around neighborhoods and turning the neighborhood into an overall parking lot. so, we're hoping to vet some of these issues today. just give some of the information the city already has. this is the first of many hearings, but i do think this will be a very important issue for us to address as this project moves forward in order for us to have a successful project. so, i do want to welcome folks that are here today. we have jen matts who is the director of development on our southern waterfront. and i was hoping she could come up first and introduce the rest of the city family that will be presenting here today at land use committee. thank you, ms. matts. >> thank you very much, supervisor. i'm jennifer matts in the office of economic and work force development and i have the privilege of working on three major waterfront development projects currently for the city. we're really delighted to be here with you today and we have a pretty robust hearing and set of presentations. some of this information we've shared with both the cac and with the port commission, but this is the first time that we've come to you board of supervisors because these hearings are broadcast and televised, we think it will reach an even wider audience with a level of detail we haven't yet been able to communicate with the city at large. lisa pagan from our office will address issues and concerns that supervisor kim brought up. peter all bert from the mta will be discussing the transportation survey and assessment that's currently ongoing for the waterfront and how that will impact the environmental review process for this project. we have byron the director of development from the port to discuss briefly the port's waterfront land use plan which we think provides very important context for why this location is appropriate to consider an arena. and then we will have craig talk about the actual design. it's really tremendous that we have craig here to present the design himself because really no one does it justice the way he does. after that we'll just have very brief comments from two other departments, san francisco fire department and the mayor's office of disability to talk about the ways in which both fire station and fire boats can hopefully be collated at this site. and also to talk about the outreach we've begun with the mayor's office of disability when we think about the 7 acres of open space in addition to the structures that are proposed for both the seawall lot and piers 30-32. so, with that i would like to turn this over to lisa pagan. >> thanks. through the chair if i may, i did for get to bring up a second issue to bring up in the committee. i want to frame it with the perspective of the neighborhood. another concern is the quality of life issue which ms. pagan will be addressing. to give the public a sense of what we've been hearing, the concerns have been around additional crowds around the home game of the giants. there will be other nights we'll be experiencing the crowds and more trash in the neighborhood. urination is what we get complaints about, people leaving games and urinating on people's door steps. general crowd control and what that might look like if we had an arena and stadium in the neighborhood. thank you, ms. pagan, for being here. >> lisa pagan, office of economic and work force development. thank you, supervisors, chair mar. i led a workshop on november 5th with at least 60 attendees where we talked about safety, noise, and other sort of quality of life impacts that people were concerned about related to the proposed development at piers 30-32, but also what the concerns are today, the existing conditions and also their concerns about future impacts of the proposed development. -- for the facility and multi-entertainment sports facility. so, it was a really great workshop in the sense that i got a lot of information. we split into five break out groups. we had surveys, written surveys. they talked with the facilitator in the break out group. they put stickers where they think that the impacts would happen. but they also provided a lot of verbal and we had a lot of notes, feedback. right now we're going through all of that information and we're analyzing what are the main concerns, and what do people want to preserve about what they like about the neighborhood as it exists today. so, our hope is to finish analyzing the information and then we go back to the community and have some proposals how to address what they would like to see addressed. we stuck to cleanliness, safety, noise, because the transportation issues, peter all bert had a big workshop on the week before. so we didn't focus as much on public transportation and traffic, although we did touch on where traffic control might be located and needed. so, we're in the process. we haven't come up with the answers yet, but we are going to and work with the community on some strategies to address the concerns that you're talking about, cleanliness and safety and impacts of different large events happening in the neighborhood. so, if you have any other questions, i'd be happy to answer, but [speaker not understood] finish analyzing the information about the [speaker not understood]. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. peter all bert from mta. i'm going to talk about what we're doing with the waterfront transportation assessment. i'd like to actually -- first of all, i think it's really important for us in planning transportation to take that step back and do much more than just plan for one particular project. when so much is going on in the surrounding neighborhood, this idea of doing a transportation assessment was to get out ahead of what we know are three large projects that will be coming along pretty soon. we're working obviously with piers 30-32. we're aware of what is happening with mission rock. we'll be working with pier 70. it made sense for us at mta to make sure that as a stakeholder ourselves in ensuring good transportation and looking at pedestrian and bicycle and transit and traffic and parking that we also are as concerned about the quality that comes out of this. what we see is an opportunity here and i appreciate the chance to work and get ahead of this opportunity. so, the slides that i have on the powerpoint, i don't know if that's coming across -- thank you -- one of the first steps we want to do is step back and look at not just pier 30-32, but look at the bigger waterfront area. that was brought at the fisherman's wharf pier 70. to make sure that as we rollup our sleeves and get in the transportation problem solving that we're working with the community most affected who live day to day with some of the issues, but the idea of community is pretty big. operating transit, it's residents who live near the traffic and transit issue. it's our partner agencies who deal with transportation if the employers and employee -- need to get back and forth to work. it's obviously the clients that are hoping that their proposal are better and the quality of life in san francisco fits all of that. so, we also know that getting out ahead of the problem means getting out ahead of environmental review. it would be a real disadvantage for us at mta. if we were trying to come up with solutions to transportation problems while an e-i-r is thumping along at a quick pace, doing the assessment before the e-i-r has start today begin, there is a huge opportunity and i hope it becomes a role model for how we do big projects in the future. one of the things i'm open to do with this assessment is identify schorr term and long term gaps. there is a lot already going on. but is it going on in concert with the development proposals? * the transportation assessments in the books lining up in time for the transportation challenges we've got? and finally, are we being smart as a city in leveraging what's happening so that we can get much more than what we could have if we just treated it project by project by project? but instead put them together in one big network and say, working together we can do so much more than the individual projects could themselves. so, the image you have on the screen now would handicap what we're going to talk about doing. the white area, the gray area was our initial attempt to find broader than just pier 30-32. what became clear to us is those facilities outside the boundary that we're now folding into the study, the parking facilities, the ramps to the freeway, pier 70 and all that is going on around there, we're rolling out our study area to include what is happening around pier 70, the seawall lot 337 mission project near the giants ballpark. and seawall lot 330 and piers 30-32, we're also looking at also the land use changes and the transportation investments in the broader area. we're also not starting from scratch. i worked very closely with america's cup. the people's plan was a product of a lot of community input and a lot of those concerns and issues came right out of the same area of the waterfront we're talking about now. because that was so recently gathered, that input, that became a great foundation for us to say, hey, if you've already spent some of those 260 meetings we had in the last two years in the america's cup, your thoughts, your comments weren't wasted on us. we recorded them, actually color-coded them to make sure i took track of what we heard in the beginning of 2010, what we heard in 2011, what we heard in 2012. these are actually online. hosted by wed's website. there are pages and pages of community input about transit, about pedestrian safety, about accessibility, about employers worried about their employees getting to work. and we also wanted to make sure that we had comments resolved in time because we had a great experience with the america's cup. and ware going to have more experiences with the america's cup. last year was the first test of what is going to be more sustained series of events next summer. but it was an opportunity for us to pilot things that we heard from the community that we as agencies ourselves wanted to do. the idea of bike sharing. we know bike sharing will come out in spring. but park wide, the rental company to get our hands on spictiontion sharing experience, put it out there at the marina green and see how we could get people comfortable with this option. we tested the e line, historic streetcar and the waterfront from mission bay to fisherman's wharf. it is a streetcar with challenges to operate but we know what the challenges are and meeting with the engineers with the nta to figure out how we can sustain the e line not just for special event but for round the clock service. we also paid attention to details like pedestrian safety, way finding, helping visitors find their way around the waterfront. a quick fix, stapling a few signs to a post, but what was so important about that, we used real time information that gave people choices that if they were to walk from the ferry building to the ballpark or from the ferry building to marina green, we could get them time options and show them where milestones were along the way. we also did the same with the bicycle network as our bike network expands. and with that we knew we were starting from -- with the community, a lot of the people already worked with us to roll our sleeves up and say let's get beyond america's cup event planning and talk about long-term fixes. what do we know that needs to happen in all the different modal networks, what are the timing of major projects coming and are they linked well to the transportation investments that are in the books? and are they -- are we able to get ahead of the ceqa process so we could identify solutions that make a lot of sense even while ceqa is starting to trend in its analysis? by laying out those parameters we sat down into break out sessions. we had six of them. we went through a lot of exercises using the strength of people in the neighborhood knew of the issues. they marked out maps, told us their top six concerns. six groups, six concerns. we had a few that overlapped. we had a range of fib use, pedestrian, transit, parking, traffic, for people who don't care about ball games but just want to get in and out of their garages. report back structure, we summarized the feedback and now what we're doing is pointing to a lot of work ahead of us. let me sort of show you an overview of some of the basics. these maps were really helpful. it is the first time i think we layered so much richness on one simple map. for instance, the transit map shows existing and proposed transit investments. existing [speaker not understood], central subway, the caltrain extension into downtown, the local and regional networks. it's hard to real read it to scale, but people were willing to mark them up. the pedestrian network used the grid, but it also used the abag bay trail. it also used corridors that were working specifically on second interest and market street, knowing there are concerns with investment * . working with cac, jamie whit can hererctiontion, gave me a richness with pedestrian safety has only helped us. bicycle network, again, existing what's proposed. parking and arterials network, facilities we know about how big the parking garages and lots were, we're expanding this network to include private garages as well as public garages because we think that the solutions lie in partnerships with private and public parking well beyond the sort of clumsy way we roll out parking resources now. so, here's a map that's otherwise impossible that really understand. now that you've seen how we built this, all these layers upon layers, what we're getting is this is a really dense rich area that has a lot of opportunity, but a lot of challenges. these circles that are radiating around pier 30-32, they could be drawn on any of the big projects. but they helped me identify how many bus stops, how many transit stops, the walking distance, the parking facilities. this is the network of maps that are going to start shaping some of our solutions. so, how do we get the solutions? we pay attention to the inventory of projects that are happening not just in the next five years, or the next 15 years, but all the way out to the next 30 years. they might be hard to read so let me explain what you're looking at. this is a snapshot of what we call the second phase of three phases. between 2013 and 2017, perhaps between 2017 and 2025, will be this phase. this is the phase that has the mission rock project. the beginning of pier 70, it has the arena built out. it also has central subway. it has the caltrain electric strife indication, the implementation of phases of tep and the bike plan. * but what i'm paying attention to or we all are hopefully is are we linking these investments so they fall in time for the land use and big developments. and if not, what are the bridge measures that we need to put together so that for a year or two 2013 the opening of a big opening of residential development and the central subway, * we have transit capacity in place to carry people for that year. i can tell you that working with americas cup taught me volumes about how red and i quick we can be when we're smart in planning ahead to supply the capacity when and where it needs to be. so, summaries about first round of workshops we had on october 30th, these are just two of the six slides. we have the marked up maps, the top six concerns. we also have pages of individual concerns that came out of that. these are also posted on our website because we want this process to be transparent. if you weren't able to make work shock 1 on october 30th we're hoping you'll help us december 4th the next workshop. at that workshop i've already heard loud and clear from the community let's have better data on the integration of land use and transportation. so, we are preparing maps that show not only all those transit networks but what the land use is, making sure the future transit is falling where the land use needed to be. but thanks to the planning department, we've got those maps underway. what's really interesting is the comment that came out was, okay, we've got this data, we know it's happening. what's the soul of this planning? where are we going in terms of goals and objectives and what quality of the neighborhood do we really want to build? we have a lot of goals and objectives in a variety of documents already, the general plan, the transportation element of the general plan, the waterfront land use plan of the port, the area plans of south beach, rincon point, those are community objectives already set. we're going to start with those. we put them all over the walls and asked the people at the workshop these are what's in the books. help us figure out this is adequately addressing what you see emerging in this part of town because we can circle those goals and objectives and say, yes, they point to this part of the waterfront. i expect we'll need to come up as a community with new goals and objectives that reflect what is really happening. however, that should be a fantastic exercise because when we do, when we have goals and objectives, we have an inventory of all the projects in the works and when they're happening and we have a list of what the concerns are, what we can start doing is fashioning some recommendations and solutions. and to do that before may 2015, get that out ahead of the published draft e-i-r for pier 30-32, it gottion us ahead of the draft e-i-r for mission rock and pier 70. so we can start pointing to tremendously valuable mitigations measures and solutions that hopefully are part of the project or certainly addressing what the project impacts are. again, i'm one of the stakeholders. my system mta needs to work well. getting ahead of the data, timing, community concerns, i will be much more confident going into an e-i-r and all of the analysis we get, understanding that i've got these ideas and this community perceptions with me. so, with that i'd be happy to take questions or move to the next presenter. >> wanted to ask mr. albert, how many people participated in
into a bedroom. that's called a micro unit situation where you don't even have your own private bath and bedroom. this will provide people with their own living space and their own private kitchen and bathroom. i also completely agree with the point that was made that we need more family housing. we absolutely do. and we should be supporting that. but almost 40% of san francisco ans live alone as i mentioned at the beginning. and we need to be focusing on that segment of the population as well * . the two are not mutually exclusive. so, colleagues, this is a good compromise piece of legislation. although i agree with mr. cohen and with the planning commission that ideally obviously i introduced this with no cap on it and that would be my preference. but politics and legislation being the process that it is, we work together and we came up with what i think is a good compromise and i stand by that compromise. so, -- >> yeah, that came in too late. i don't think we can reopen public comment. >> okay. so, colleagues, first, mr. chairman, i'd like to move the amendments and then i would move to forward the legislation with a positive recommendation as a committee report to the full board for tomorrow. >> okay. let me first ask if supervisor kim had comments. >> first i want to address one of the comments from public comment. i just want to state that the hotel referred to on sixth and howard is slated for affordable family housing and it's already in movement. i think there was some stalling because of the dissolution of redevelopment and that's part of the -- soma redevelopment area plan. but the funding has been secured for the hotel. what slowed it down is the building is historic. we have some additional processes unfortunately. but it will be fulfilling a need in the south of market which is the need for more family housing, multi-unit housing. of course, affordable housing for families which is great. but i do just want to say as someone who has a lot of concerns about efficiency units, particularly the impact in the south of market where we already have a lot of density, and also questioning the market need for this type of unit, i do appreciate the compromise that was brokered and i just want to thank supervisor wiener and all the advocates for really coming together and putting forward a solution where we can test out this type of model of housing and see what the market demand is and kind of who inhabits this type of housing. i know it's a small amount, but i think it's a good start. so, i want to appreciate the work that went behind it. it was months and months of work. >> i want to just add also thanking supervisor wiener for working with the nine community-based organizations and affordable housing groups, also from planning and others that put a lot of work into this. i think there is a strong and firm safeguard that's really built into this compromise that allows flexibility in building more housing, but also is really sensitive looking at potential impacts and benefits of these types of smaller units. so, i'll be supportive. on the amendments, can we adopt the amendments without objection? thank you. and on the legislation itself as amended, as a committee report to the full board on november 30th, can we do that with positive recommendation without objection? thank you. thank you. thank you, supervisor wiener. thank you, everyone. mr. evans, i forgot to mention we're being broadcasted by sfgtv and the hard working staff, jessie larson and jeff rob son. i'd like to thank them. mr. evans, could you please call item number 4? >> item number 4, hearing to consider the initial project design of the proposed golden gate -- golden state warriors development on piers 30 to 32 and seawall lot 330, and update on the waterfront transportation network assessment. >> thank you. and the sponsors are supervisor jane kim and president david chiu. so, we're joined by supervisor jane kim on this item. supervisor kim. >> thank you, chair mar. thank you for agendizing this hearing today. as many of you know, last wednesday at the budget finance committee, we considered the fiscal feasibility of the pier 30-32 project which includes a potential arena with our warriors team back here in san francisco. the committee did determine that the project is fiscally feasible, but as many of you know, we do have a lot of concerns in the neighborhood as we move through this process. and, no, i called this hearing to readdress one of the current concerns that we've heard the most often regarding this project which is transportation. this hearing is the first of multiple hearings that i have requested to give the board periodic updates on the proposed golden gate warriors development project. this first hearing is just an informational hearing to consider the initial project design for the development on pier 30-32 with assessment of the transportation network very near and around pier 30-32. and i just also want to acknowledge today we do have [speaker not understood] the principal architect for this project. this hearing again gives us the opportunity to hear about one of the two top issues of concerns for constituents in the south beach rincon hill and mission bay neighborhood. the first that we occurred was transportation. this area is already a neighborhood that is quite impacted by the regular traffic of workers and commuters onto the bay bridge as well as the 2 80. we have a lot of questions in terms of what this new arena -- what is really the assessed impact that we believe might occur and what types of investments do we as a city need to make to address the demands. we have some of the highest collisions between pedestrians and vehicleses in the south of market. so, how will this project impact those rates? second, we asked questions whether we can support bike infrastructure in that neighborhood to increase bike circulation so folks can bike to and [speaker not understood]. third, we have questions about what public transit investment costs are and to meet the demands of additional gains in this neighborhood. we've already seen what muni has been able to do with giants home games. so, we have already some data analysis around what that might cost with additional warriors games. and i actually just want to bring up a point that one of my colleagues brought up last week at the budget committee meeting which i had not thought of, being that i don't represent outer portions of the city, but supervisor chiu brought up when we have giants home game night, muni doesn't run all the way to the sunset. i'm sure we experience that in other outer neighborhoods here in san francisco. the last issue of course that comes up often is the issue of parking and it's participants to games or other events circling around neighborhoods and turning the neighborhood into an overall parking lot. so, we're hoping to vet some of these issues today. just give some of the information the city already has. this is the first of many hearings, but i do think this will be a very important issue for us to address as this project moves forward in order for us to have a successful project. so, i do want to welcome folks that are here today. we have jen matts who is the director of development on our southern waterfront. and i was hoping she could come up first and introduce the rest of the city family that will be presenting here today at land use committee. thank you, ms. matts. >> thank you very much, supervisor. i'm jennifer matts in the office of economic and work force development and i have the privilege of working on three major waterfront development projects currently for the city. we're really delighted to be here with you today and we have a pretty robust hearing and set of presentations. some of this information we've shared with both the cac and with the port commission, but this is the first time that we've come to you board of supervisors because these hearings are broadcast and televised, we think it will reach an even wider audience with a level of detail we haven't yet been able to communicate with the city at large. lisa pagan from our office will address issues and concerns that supervisor kim brought up. peter all bert from the mta will be discussing the transportation survey and assessment that's currently ongoing for the waterfront and how that will impact the environmental review process for this project. we have byron the director of development from the port to discuss briefly the port's waterfront land use plan which we think provides very important context for why this location is appropriate to consider an arena. and then we will have craig talk about the actual design. it's really tremendous that we have craig here to present the design himself because really no one does it justice the way he does. after that we'll just have very brief comments from two other departments, san francisco fire department and the mayor's office of disability to talk about the ways in which both fire station and fire boats can hopefully be collated at this site. and also to talk about the outreach we've begun with the mayor's office of disability when we think about the 7 acres of open space in addition to the structures that are proposed for both the seawall lot and piers 30-32. so, with that i would like to turn this over to lisa pagan. >> thanks. through the chair if i may, i did for get to bring up a second issue to bring up in the committee. i want to frame it with the perspective of the neighborhood. another concern is the quality of life issue which ms. pagan will be addressing. to give the public a sense of what we've been hearing, the concerns have been around additional crowds around the home game of the giants. there will be other nights we'll be experiencing the crowds and more trash in the neighborhood. urination is what we get complaints about, people leaving games and urinating on people's door steps. general crowd control and what that might look like if we had an arena and stadium in the neighborhood. thank you, ms. pagan, for being here. >> lisa pagan, office of economic and work force development. thank you, supervisors, chair mar. i led a workshop on november 5th with at least 60 attendees where we talked about safety, noise, and other sort of quality of life impacts that people were concerned about related to the proposed development at piers 30-32, but also what the concerns are today, the existing conditions and also their concerns about future impacts of the proposed development. -- for the facility and multi-entertainment sports facility. so, it was a really great workshop in the sense that i got a lot of information. we split into five break out groups. we had surveys, written surveys. they talked with the facilitator in the break out group. they put stickers where they think that the impacts would happen. but they also provided a lot of verbal and we had a lot of notes, feedback. right now we're going through all of that information and we're analyzing what are the main concerns, and what do people want to preserve about what they like about the neighborhood as it exists today. so, our hope is to finish analyzing the information and then we go back to the community and have some proposals how to address what they would like to see addressed. we stuck to cleanliness, safety, noise, because the transportation issues, peter all bert had a big workshop on the week before. so we didn't focus as much on public transportation and traffic, although we did touch on where traffic control might be located and needed. so, we're in the process. we haven't come up with the answers yet, but we are going to and work with the community on some strategies to address the concerns that you're talking about, cleanliness and safety and impacts of different large events happening in the neighborhood. so, if you have any other questions, i'd be happy to answer, but [speaker not understood] finish analyzing the information about the [speaker not understood]. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. peter all bert from mta. i'm going to talk about what we're doing with the waterfront transportation assessment. i'd like to actually -- first of all, i think it's really important for us in planning transportation to take that step back and do much more than just plan for one particular project. when so much is going on in the surrounding neighborhood, this idea of doing a transportation assessment was to get out ahead of what we know are three large projects that will be coming along pretty soon. we're working obviously with piers 30-32. we're aware of what is happening with mission rock. we'll be working with pier 70. it made sense for us at mta to make sure that as a stakeholder ourselves in ensuring good transportation and looking at pedestrian and bicycle and transit and traffic and parking that we also are as concerned about the quality that comes out of this. what we see is an opportunity here and i appreciate the chance to work and get ahead of this opportunity. so, the slides that i have on the powerpoint, i don't know if that's coming across -- thank you -- one of the first steps we want to do is step back and look at not just pier 30-32, but look at the bigger waterfront area. that was brought at the fisherman's wharf pier 70. to make sure that as we rollup our sleeves and get in the transportation problem solving that we're working with the community most affected who live day to day with some of the issues, but the idea of community is pretty big. operating transit, it's residents who live near the traffic and transit issue. it's our partner agencies who deal with transportation if the employers and employee -- need to get back and forth to work. it's obviously the clients that are hoping that their proposal are better and the quality of life in san francisco fits all of that. so, we also know that getting out ahead of the problem means getting out ahead of environmental review. it would be a real disadvantage for us at mta. if we were trying to come up with solutions to transportation problems while an e-i-r is thumping along at a quick pace, doing the assessment before the e-i-r has start today begin, there is a huge opportunity and i hope it becomes a role model for how we do big projects in the future. one of the things i'm open to do with this assessment is identify schorr term and long term gaps. there is a lot already going on. but is it going on in concert with the development proposals? * the transportation assessments in the books lining up in time for the transportation challenges we've got? and finally, are we being smart as a city in leveraging what's happening so that we can get much more than what we could have if we just treated it project by project by project? but instead put them together in one big network and say, working together we can do so much more than the individual projects could themselves. so, the image you have on the screen now would handicap what we're going to talk about doing. the white area, the gray area was our initial attempt to find broader than just pier 30-32. what became clear to us is those facilities outside the boundary that we're now folding into the study, the parking facilities, the ramps to the freeway, pier 70 and all that is going on around there, we're rolling out our study area to include what is happening around pier 70, the seawall lot 337 mission project near the giants ballpark. and seawall lot 330 and piers 30-32, we're also looking at also the land use changes and the transportation investments in the broader area. we're also not starting from scratch. i worked very closely with america's cup. the people's plan was a product of a lot of community input and a lot of those concerns and issues came right out of the same area of the waterfront we're talking about now. because that was so recently gathered, that input, that became a great foundation for us to say, hey, if you've already spent some of those 260 meetings we had in the last two years in the america's cup, your thoughts, your comments weren't wasted on us. we recorded them, actually color-coded them to make sure i took track of what we heard in the beginning of 2010, what we heard in 2011, what we heard in 2012. these are actually online. hosted by wed's website. there are pages and pages of community input about transit, about pedestrian safety, about accessibility, about employers worried about their employees getting to work. and we also wanted to make sure that we had comments resolved in time because we had a great experience with the america's cup. and ware going to have more experiences with the america's cup. last year was the first test of what is going to be more sustained series of events next summer. but it was an opportunity for us to pilot things that we heard from the community that we as agencies ourselves wanted to do. the idea of bike sharing. we know bike sharing will come out in spring. but park wide, the rental company to get our hands on spictiontion sharing experience, put it out there at the marina green and see how we could get people comfortable with this option. we tested the e line, historic streetcar and the waterfront from mission bay to fisherman's wharf. it is a streetcar with challenges to operate but we know what the challenges are and meeting with the engineers with the nta to figure out how we can sustain the e line not just for special event but for round the clock service. we also paid attention to details like pedestrian safety, way finding, helping visitors find their way around the waterfront. a quick fix, stapling a few signs to a post, but what was so important about that, we used real time information that gave people choices that if they were to walk from the ferry building to the ballpark or from the ferry building to marina green, we could get them time options and show them where milestones were along the way. we also did the same with the bicycle network as our bike network expands. and with that we knew we were starting from -- with the community, a lot of the people already worked with us to roll our sleeves up and say let's get beyond america's cup event planning and talk about long-term fixes. what do we know that needs to happen in all the different modal networks, what are the timing of major projects coming and are they linked well to the transportation investments that are in the books? and are they -- are we able to get ahead of the ceqa process so we could identify solutions that make a lot of sense even while ceqa is starting to trend in its analysis? by laying out those parameters we sat down into break out sessions. we had six of them. we went through a lot of exercises using the strength of people in the neighborhood knew of the issues. they marked out maps, told us their top six concerns. six groups, six concerns. we had a few that overlapped. we had a range of fib use, pedestrian, transit, parking, traffic, for people who don't care about ball games but just want to get in and out of their garages. report back structure, we summarized the feedback and now what we're doing is pointing to a lot of work ahead of us. let me sort of show you an overview of some of the basics. these maps were really helpful. it is the first time i think we layered so much richness on one simple map. for instance, the transit map shows existing and proposed transit investments. existing [speaker not understood], central subway, the caltrain extension into downtown, the local and regional networks. it's hard to real read it to scale, but people were willing to mark them up. the pedestrian network used the grid, but it also used the abag bay trail. it also used corridors that were working specifically on second interest and market street, knowing there are concerns with investment * . working with cac, jamie whit can hererctiontion, gave me a richness with pedestrian safety has only helped us. bicycle network, again, existing what's proposed. parking and arterials network, facilities we know about how big the parking garages and lots were, we're expanding this network to include private garages as well as public garages because we think that the solutions lie in partnerships with private and public parking well beyond the sort of clumsy way we roll out parking resources now. so, here's a map that's otherwise impossible that really understand. now that you've seen how we built this, all these layers upon layers, what we're getting is this is a really dense rich area that has a lot of opportunity, but a lot of challenges. these circles that are radiating around pier 30-32, they could be drawn on any of the big projects. but they helped me identify how many bus stops, how many transit stops, the walking distance, the parking facilities. this is the network of maps that are going to start shaping some of our solutions. so, how do we get the solutions? we pay attention to the inventory of projects that are happening not just in the next five years, or the next 15 years, but all the way out to the next 30 years. they might be hard to read so let me explain what you're looking at. this is a snapshot of what we call the second phase of three phases. between 2013 and 2017, perhaps between 2017 and 2025, will be this phase. this is the phase that has the mission rock project. the beginning of pier 70, it has the arena built out. it also has central subway. it has the caltrain electric strife indication, the implementation of phases of tep and the bike plan. * but what i'm paying attention to or we all are hopefully is are we linking these investments so they fall in time for the land use and big developments. and if not, what are the bridge measures that we need to put together so that for a year or two 2013 the opening of a big opening of residential development and the central subway, * we have transit capacity in place to carry people for that year. i can tell you that working with americas cup taught me volumes about how red and i quick we can be when we're smart in planning ahead to supply the capacity when and where it needs to be. so, summaries about first round of workshops we had on october 30th, these are just two of the six slides. we have the marked up maps, the top six concerns. we also have pages of individual concerns that came out of that. these are also posted on our website because we want this process to be transparent. if you weren't able to make work shock 1 on october 30th we're hoping you'll help us december 4th the next workshop. at that workshop i've already heard loud and clear from the community let's have better data on the integration of land use and transportation. so, we are preparing maps that show not only all those transit networks but what the land use is, making sure the future transit is falling where the land use needed to be. but thanks to the planning department, we've got those maps underway. what's really interesting is the comment that came out was, okay, we've got this data, we know it's happening. what's the soul of this planning? where are we going in terms of goals and objectives and what quality of the neighborhood do we really want to build? we have a lot of goals and objectives in a variety of documents already, the general plan, the transportation element of the general plan, the waterfront land use plan of the port, the area plans of south beach, rincon point, those are community objectives already set. we're going to start with those. we put them all over the walls and asked the people at the workshop these are what's in the books. help us figure out this is adequately addressing what you see emerging in this part of town because we can circle those goals and objectives and say, yes, they point to this part of the waterfront. i expect we'll need to come up as a community with new goals and objectives that reflect what is really happening. however, that should be a fantastic exercise because when we do, when we have goals and objectives, we have an inventory of all the projects in the works and when they're happening and we have a list of what the concerns are, what we can start doing is fashioning some recommendations and solutions. and to do that before may 2015, get that out ahead of the published draft e-i-r for pier 30-32, it gottion us ahead of the draft e-i-r for mission rock and pier 70. so we can start pointing to tremendously valuable mitigations measures and solutions that hopefully are part of the project or certainly addressing what the project impacts are. again, i'm one of the stakeholders. my system mta needs to work well. getting ahead of the data, timing, community concerns, i will be much more confident going into an e-i-r and all of the analysis we get, understanding that i've got these ideas and this community perceptions with me. so, with that i'd be happy to take questions or move to the next presenter. >> wanted to ask mr. albert, how many people participated in that october 30th workshop, and how are you doing outreach to make sure the neighbors and neighborhoods around the development are really involved? and i know lisa pagan also mentioned the neighborhoods are really critical but i just wanted to have some sense of numbers and how you're going to get better data and include the neighborhoods more. >> thank you. we had 55 people at the first workshop. working closely with [speaker not understood] helping us with outreach, she maintains the list of community members who are involved who asked questions. we also worked with the cac and the cac drives a big turnout. i'm building that mailing list as i go because as we get a lot of comments online, we have an interactive place where people can plug into give us input and be part of our e-mail list. we're trying to go beyond e-mail. we have social networks, conventional mail, handwritten a few letters who to people who don't want to work on computers. this is helping get out to the bigger community. this is the time to work with us and it would be fantastic to have the input televised and having more forums like these. >> i would agree with you that the people plan for the america's cup is good data, but this is specific to this area. that's a little bit different than the america's cup which as a huge spill. i'm glad there is a commitment to work closely with the neighborhood surrounding the development. so, thank you. >> may i? >> supervisor kim. >> thank you. mr. albert, thank you so much. i do appreciate the fact i do think the outreach has been done since august in the neighborhood and there have been a number of meetings, the turnouts have been really great. i think those from the warriors and [speaker not understood] have been really supportive outreach and i want to appreciate that. for a project of this size. i was wondering if you could go over a little bit some of the lessons we learned from the giants stadium as another large kind of public event institution in the city. i know that we've collected the data. we have some kind of [speaker not understood]. what were positive things the city could do or meet the needs or increase of the giants stadium? what were some of the lessons we learned, things we can improve on for the next project? >> thank you. well, looking even back as 1999 when we started projecting what we thought might happen, that was before the stadium opened, i think there were -- i have data here from my colleague jerry robbins who has been instrumental in helping build the plan. it is a little more than 52%. were expected to come by car during the weekday. that went up to 68%, 65% on the weekend. those are the assumptions in the e-i-r. they're pretty close to what happened initially. what we also saw, though, that we didn't -- that we see now that are bigger numbers than we projected, a big increase in the walk and the bike mode split. the bike valley parking the giants worked really well. transit rider ship in the beginning was 41% which is easily the highest transit mode we saw in ballparks around the country. that settled into 25% mode split. it puts us in the top 3. chicago has 23-1/2. so, those benchmarks are far and above the transit mode system we've seen are around the country. i'm a little worried why we at mta contributed from the 40 to 20 and i can tell you one of
affordable housing in san francisco and calvin is the director of the san francisco information clearing house a nonprofit that is with community and land use issues. thank you calvin (clapping.) i just want to spend on the i'm unaccustomed to speaking for the next 20 or thirty minutes. first of all, i'd like to thank gail and james tracingy two of renee's farther people. gail was the last executive director that renée helped and was the first executive director from chp that came from within chp and james trashing was closed to renée and close to my heart the only community organizer poet in the hate beat tradition a tradition that renée greatly appreciated now with the work and the point of james is to keep everybody real and the point of gail is to keep james real so they both work i think very well together. iran in a was a dedicated community activist. i was more than that he was a state of history, he was a man of the left, he was a material lit who believed that material reality could be changed by the actions of organized and empowered people and he dedicated most of his life to figuring out ways to make that work and in a city that he was born in and grew up in and loved. he understood that place was important that empowering people in place was incredibly important, and that building empowered people in a specific place was how you built community. and that through community true power of people is expressed. this building represents in a fundamental way the material manifestation of that ideal that i don't think it's an exaggeration that renée dedicated his life to purring so it's good it's a bright sunny day it's well, and good this is housing for homeless people, and it is well, and good that the sign that you read coming in about renee's life and work is with the struggle it continues because the struggle does continue. and continues in this city. it continues now and it's up to us to carry that struggle forward it never ends but it should be a joyfully and happy activity for all who knew renée you knew how joyful renée could be on test and thursday the rest of the year he was as serious as a heart attack. i'm to close with a small poem my heart is with the goal and friends i have. all the roses clipped made evens and the light footed lads. by brooks to brood for leaping the light foot lads are laid, the rose lipped girdles are sleeping and roses in fields where roses fade. i'd like to introduce renée was look at many other things a light footed lad and i'd like to introduce you, you his rose flipped maiden sylvia (clapping.) thank you. >> thank you. my son and i would like to express our gradually to chp and everyone who expressed renee's work to his memory. iran nay in a loved san francisco and spent 40 years of his life working to provide affordable housing and making living in san francisco and that's what chp has accomplished with this building chp has been building to build the apartment in a prime location surrounded by million dollar condos to provide housing for formerly homeless individuals is an establishment. the chp had to overcame things was enormous. over the years in other projects renée experienced with many of you the difficulties and challenges to accomplish the same goals. by choosing to name that wonderful building the renée apartments chp has not only revoked iran nasal accomplishments but claims victory. renée would be thrilled about this building and also embarrassed to have his name on it because no one would be sirnld out it had to be shared with others. on his behavior i'd like to thank chp and all who participated in this great project. renée would have wanted your names next to his and finally my perm be thanks to you gail and to michael where are you are and i'd like to introduce barry white 0 who is is resident of this building (clapping.) >> good morning. my name is a bar white i'm honored to it up to speak on behalf of the fellow residents iran in a apartments. believe me we're grateful to a call this our home. over 12 years ago i lost any apartment i was a self-employed artist the 9/11 attacks and a challenging marriage and it medication in the form of meths it's not spiraling i became poems homeless on the street many were dealing with challenges greater than my own i become nor patient i xheshd checked myself no rehab and have been clean ever since i met my case worker she held my hand while i waited for hours i was not on the street very long i moved in here a little over 4 medias. i realize there's no typical story. every circumstances and person is unique. apparently when this project was conserved and the building was designed those responsible for this project economy that. i love this building aside from the sanctuary of my own room i find sincere relative in the garden and the court yard but as nice as it is it would not feel home without the services the positive and generous support of the staff is an sdrarl aspect of high recovery attendee the art groping group and the art group and the recovery group i enjoy fridays where we sit and socialize in a congestive heart failure atmosphere we're greeted with confined smiles gradually i'm getting congestive heart failure with my neighbors he feel safe and secure in my apartment and regaining my self-respect and over the 12 years i'm setting up my first love my art. thank you for your time and support (clapping.) >> thank you so an sdrarl part of our village that helped to bring this tooth our elected folks who have the political will who invest in the city dollars it's my honor to introduce the chair of the joint bay power authority supervisor kim (clapping). >> i get to really be here under several hats one, of course, is the district supervisor for this part of the city and chair of the joint powers committee to oversee the plan with ocii who's here today and, of course, the transbay joint powers authority and feinstein has an organizer for the member of chow chow the chinatown community center we built the affordable housing but worked closely with renée i'll say it is so existing that one of the first parcels to be built is affordable housing. a hundred and 20 units for the formerly homeless and it's in the inner city not only providing housing but providing services on site that allows people to stay in their home. we have a couple of through the 0 plaza hotel on significant and howard and others and the reattention rate is amazing it's 90 percent over 90 percent of our residents stay in the homes but community housing fairnz is one of the organizations that does that right we need to provide folks services where they stay in place. in other aspects of the neighborhood it's great to build the parcel this was a piece of dirt that wasn't serving the community and now supporting the community in a large way besides it providing stylists we also have retail something that the neighborhood wanted to have as what we built and rincon point and people don't feel like they have the amenities and this site will provide some of that not only the additional activities but supports the retail and under ocii and transbay support open space through the this area and 35 affordable housing. for low income and middle income. i want to recognize we have our director tiffany and two commissioners elton and monohow far who lives in district 6 and, of course, olsen lee from the mayor's office of housing. but i really want to end on how meaningful in building is renée was congressmen known for the advocacy around building affordable housing and really pushing, pushing the city and pushing the mayor and myself at every layer to look at in terms of how we can fund and build more. but the other part of renée i think he's most known for amongst our community is that renée cared about building community and mentorship that's a later in our field we often forget about how to mentor young folks coming up through the pipeline that make sure that the work renée and cal van vin has done over 40 years to build this needs to continue to go on and renée understood that so for his family noisome name to be on affordable housing on a building that's for building a community and building an affordability space so i'm sure sure he'd be impasses to have his name but we have to remember his legacy we carry it on our showers onward so i'm glad that chp and bridge and i want to thank them for taking on this project. we don't have any other affordable housing in your pipeline so the mayor and i are going to have to work to get more affordable housing in the pipeline as well. congratulations so many partners made this happen and i'm proud to be here today. thank you (clapping) >> and to close out our program none of this 0 would be possible without a man who's pledged thirty thousand new units by 2020 the honorable mayor ed lee (clapping). >> thank you. well god happy circumstances are not we hear. this is a very happy day and i want to celebrate it by being here with the family of renée and all the people that knew him and the people who are about to benefit from the residents of this great site it's a great are the judges of the facts to honor renee's name here and but now we honor what heats down by recommunity investment & infrastructure commission ourselves to a movement that is part of the san francisco we're a place for everyone no matter where you come from we don't hold that against you no matter wasn't challenges we help you got to the challenges sometimes, it takes longer than we want to but we welcome everyone. this is why this aggressive goal has been announced and this particular site this housing site of one hundred and 20 adds tremendous values for one we made a commitment some years ago almost 10 years ago we would house more of our homeless and we stated we would build 3 thousand ever those supportive housing units we're a few hundred shy supervisor kim is right we'll identify projects to get to the 3 thousand and if new data says we have to do more we will. i also had the larger goal of 3 thousand homes for people in san francisco additional ones at least 25 percent of them permanently affordable and we're on our way in quarter of this year, the macarthur park of the openings we've had in the first 3 months of this year we're almost exposing the entire production of 2013 in terms of housing. so we've got to use the celebration to continue to moving forward. i want you to glance at all the different community groups listed here but glance at the financial entities that came tooth with the government entities to compliment what we we needed to do but will be great partners going forward. silicon and enterprise our friends in all of the different partnerships that we have are important to put the pages tooth not only do we build the housing but make sure they're not subject to other things that would reduce our stock so building is a great contribution and part of the whole actor agenda but we have to protect our housing stock and make sure we have down payment assistance programs to help people get into them by the way, the high costs the first and end months are huge barriers we have to identify the costs of housing bring it down for working-class for the middle-income families not one being the sole answer so i thank you for the opportunity to ask all of you the best way to honor people like renée 'coz one half and their family to honor the tremendous sacrificing whether chp or bridge to say we're going to do more of this and you know it is ironic it's a challenge i've asked all the nonprofit housing providers to join me in a reenlighten public housing stock to maintain those there's not housing authority residents they're part of san francisco we need a lot of partners going forward are you up to it? all right. let's build thirty thousand more and if more is needed we'll figured out but make sure it's affordable and within reach and thank you all for providing a great example of how we are bringing people tooth. thank you very much >> bonnie banks. bonnie banks. my definition of noise is uncontrolled music. without format. pretty simple affair. pancakes, and you're -- people get up on sundays around noon, weekends or whatever. should not be too hard to walk into place. have your audio alarm clock go off for two hours waking your up while you are eating breakfast with many interesting visuals once in a while. improvisation. listening or not to the person you're playing up against or people or machines. trying to get as many different people in as possible. different genres, experimental noise, electronics, dissonance some drums.a tiny bit of ambient -- the first noise pancake shows, 1999, the first waffle noise, 2001. god-waffle noise, noise pancake came out of cubist art, place on mission street, brutallo, where the church -- opened up his house and saturday morning cartoons. a big space. you can have everybody set up and barely move equipment around; small room for an audience to move around, walkover and get pancakes without getting burned up in the kitchen. there's like people in their hard-core gabber; people into really fast death metal; black metal. people who don't listen to music at all. guy like larnie bock (sounds like) set up huge, motor driven harp. i don't know how to explain it. 40 foot of motors that he had running over strings and wires. and then played each string individually with the mixer. there is a feeling of euphoria when somebody's really good at what they do. experiencing a buffer, pushing your bowels out your rear. different. a lot of noise. you don't play clubs with a cleaning schedule, a guy coming in the morning emptying the beer bottles. you play the warehouse. if you travel around you will see the exact same kind of weirdos doing their own thing. it is like in the bay area it's even more absurd. there seems to be more people that in a place like new york or tokyo. we did a show in new york, i didn't think that anyone was at hardly, and people come up and said i saw the show. i wish they had some kind of breakfast noise going on over there. i think a lot of people were being, walking out of the shows. that was incredible. i can't believe it's over already, after two hours. if you are reluctant to enjoy something like this it will probably take a mass of peers to sell you on it. it's fine if you stay away. most of the people that come to the shows are pretty happy to be here. you may not be one of them. which is fine. >> 7 and a half million renovation is part of the clean and safe neighbor's park fund which was on the ballot four years ago and look at how that public investment has transformed our neighborhood. >> the playground is unique in that it serves a number of age groups, unlike many of the other properties, it serves small children with the children's play grounds and clubhouses that has basketball courts, it has an outdoor soccer field and so there were a lot of people that came to the table that had their wish list and we did our best to make sure that we kind of divided up spaces and made sure that we kept the old features of the playground but we were able to enhance all of those features. >> the playground and the soccer field and the tennis fields and it is such a key part of this neighborhood. >> we want kids to be here. we want families to be here and we want people to have athletic opportunities. >> we are given a real responsibility to insure that the public's money is used appropriately and that something really special comes of these projects. we generally have about an opportunity every 50 years to redo these spaces. and it is really, really rewarding to see children and families benefit, you know, from the change of culture, at each one of these properties >> and as a result of, what you see behind us, more kids are playing on our soccer fields than ever before. we have more girls playing sports than we have ever had before. [ applause ] fp >> and we are sending a strong message that san francisco families are welcome and we want you to stay. >> this park is open. ♪
when we look at the evaluation project we have to look at trades so it out put of the model as you look at the scale from the first floor to the 50 accounting floor we're looking at similar buildings for new constructions in similar book stores locations for our conclusion. those are numbers their the current context and reflective of the evaluation in san francisco. yeah. real quick if you have any questions, i'll be happy to answer them or address them later on >> thank you. sir >> i'm going to turn it over to scott from the transbay joint powers authority transbay joint powers authority to talk about their funding program. >> sir. hi good afternoon scott with the transbay joint powers authority i'm there the first phase is the construction of the center itself curling in the downtown we broke ground in 2010 and finished the demolition of the form terminal in the fall of 2011 last february we completed the excavation roughly within beale and do you only we're about three-quarters of laying the foundation of the transit center and our next construction progress will be the beginning of steel construction starting in september so roughly a year from now a skeleton of the facility that emerges from the ground. we do in july of 2013 have a to do a budget adjustment to phase one it was roughly one $.6 billion that was increased by over $310 million that was primarily due to account for changes in two areas we did a risk and jushth will assessment of and at that point the project with the conceptual design phase so we're going to do another adjustment so we did a subsequent jushlt assessment of in 2012 that i identified approximately $58 million of security enhance times we added to the budget earlier in 2013 we did a risk assessment of that showed or recommended was some significant increases to our reserves so it relates to the strength of the construction market there's quite a bit construction downtown surroundings the transit center we're the victims of our own success when people want to build for buildings it's created a competitive environment. at the same time when we did that adjustment in july of 2013 we identified one hundred and $10 million of net revenues those are listed on the chart here. we have about 12 acres of land that the sfaifk e state of california nominated we were able to sell off those and the revenues go back to the project. again, the strength of the san francisco economy has increased the strength of the land sells the prospectives in san francisco is increasing that added to the adjustment we also got additional money from prop k there's a certain amount of money but it flows over time so when we're accelerating those funds to use them for currently construction costs there's a downtown rate the transportation authority found out they're lower than anticipated so our prop k revenues increased by $40 million. we had a lot of money in new revenues and the 3 hundred and 10 adjustment that leaves the monies that were going to be receiving from the mel ruse $28.5 million towards the construction of the park and another 2 hundred million from the mel ruse. phase two is the tunnel it connects the tunnel into king and the new transit center. on this map first of all, you see alignment 4.3 miles going up targeted downtown i up to the new trait center another thing the need for the d t x extension a lot of people that don't use caltrain they don't see that but you'll see on the slide the area half mark radius there are one hundred and 80 thousand jobs compared to other figures of jobs open fourth and king about a tenfold difference the other thing on the aerial part of the city this is a few years old the area north of market is built out not a lot of room to grow it's a long term grossly goal to shift into the south of market neighborhood. you saw this slide earlier during adams presentation but it shows that we're having tremendous success many buildings underway and another 8 residential buildings south of the district plan in the rincon point hear so the shifting development of south ward this is a major generate our of the revenues for the attributing project it was parcels we're able to sell and those revenues go toward the funding of the project and a tax increment from the tjpa that's zones one and 2 the 6 red dots are the parcels that were up zoned so again, it's been discussed that up zoning allows for taller building to be built and their worthy a lot more money and in exchanges for the benefit they have to agree to participate in the cf d special property tax so this specifics we'll receive 82.6 percent of those revenues. and just before i go into those numbers in a little bit more detail quickly we've had apace two budget that was at roughly $2.6 billion and the revision we found the bid approach that amount will increase to $3 million and it's potentially a private-public partnership be weeping we'll reduce those costs but a $3 billion it's $130 million at to accommodate one of the city's goals they're interested in bringing the tracks from the south bay underground in mission bay street and that $20 billion allows us to build a tunnel so if the tunnel goes through it will be easier to build and list disrupt to rail alienations. side to side to the 2008 budget in the middle column you have the regional plan bay area that's the transportation plan that was passed by m t c in july of 2013. we had a big success in the area that relates to the overall fund we were designated as the regional priority that was a long term goal for tjpa it's the largest funding stream that exists and the way it works your regional metropolitan planning committee they designate the priorities our region a typically carried to new start priorities based on what the region as historically receives. many, many years it was bart to other agencies that was from the planned bay area those two slots opened up one went to d t x and the second bart so we're going to receive $600 million the way we assess those is to see how long we quickly we work with the city aligning up the other fund. and this m t c committed to providing $300 million for the bridge toll for the d t x that puts us at $950 million we had one hundred million that was funds we've received that's a total of over $1 billion and the way the numbers translate your heard earlier the 9 hundred and a 98 net bond precedes from the cf d we've received 82 percent that's 8 hundred and 18 million if we use $18 million that will leaf for phase two will be $618 million >> when you add those together we're at $196 billion. >> just a few questions now we're on slide 36. so the total current projector and let me back up. this project to the transbay terminal even though we call it phase one and two we're not going to build something massive and not send a train to it, it's incongruous acceptable there's no way we would agree to build that terminal without the few information we'll wish having that train go throwing so fast two the fact on my roll at the m t c helped to come up with a reasonable mou stating wire doing the rail to downtown san francisco when regionally there was a push to say fourth and king was good enough and we put our foot down and is said no way. we're on a positive path i have serious concerns about the funding we committing to making it happen but because the significant costs increases we're seeing money funds that would have been used for d t x moved over to the terminal itself. in terms of the d t x the current budget is $3 billion >> under the traditional design bui built. >> yep. and you said how much >> the of 50 in new starts once we'll move through the $300 billion increases for m t c you add the $600 million there's a a couple of others to rounding run through. >> obviously the funding is contingent on the bridge toll increases b will have to go to the voters. >> yeah. itself it path forward. >> absolutely and also with my there's not on a larger transportation project in the country that hadn't costs in determining whether the highway system or the bay bridge we understood the costs change by so in terms of looking at accident slides number that 36 phases one and two in terms of the proposed use of the mel ruse cf d there's $118 million available for phase one and two and this indicates that $618 million will be going to phase one and then the phase one in terms of the cost overruns that's why the funds are going to phase one. >> it's due to the two adjustments i've mentioned the rb a and is additions to our other project. >> otherwise would have gone to downtown extension. >> yeah. >> the $618 million for phase two when tjpa analyze this the train box being built in is that considered phase 1 or 2. >> that's where the $200 million will be going to its going for the component o exponent of the d t x but for the train box. >> is there anything in the transbay center considered phase two or is that phase one. >> theirs certainty components in the transbay center not being built out we have our senior program manager here to explain. >> i want to know what's need insides the center that's phase two. >> i'm the senior program manager for the tjpa. if you consider phase one for on the populations then the green box is part of the phase one is for phase two use. >> right but being paid for by the phase one budget. >> the terminal box is much more. >> i understand. >> so there are other items that are phase one and two are the escalators and elevator we go up and down and some of the electrical systems that will be used by both phases. >> so my question is in terms of what's inside the terminal center out the the phase two budget kwhats the cost? >> 62 hundred, sir repeat and in terms of traditionally when we think of the phase one we think about the train so anything within the transit center out of the phase two budget what's the total amount of money? >> i don't know that information. >> i'd like to know that information. >> can i just. >> we went over - can i just- so we talked about the phase one and two budget what might be detailed for the box and terminal i heard we're detailing some of the security cameras the trains might not needs that details but nothing on the actual that building itself you could. >> there's nothing being delayed supervisor kim our correct the deferns over the electrical elements required for phase one that's for phase two we're going to defer that to phase two the cameras in the lower concourse we're striving to have those but deferring to phase two we put the cameras in the train box but will be obsolete. >> if i could get something within the four walls or how many other walls that are being paid for to be transparent my concern being the given the increase in costs for phase one every time costs increases in phase the one phase two costs come out of that. we're going to get this amazing project done and it will be amazing for the transportation please get those to us >> we'll be happy to. >> i know we've been and, of course, this is a question for the colleague there. >> some of the changes that have been made to the phase one project physical changes and changes to the budget due to the costs increases the removal of the park from phase one and then or the issue of the park and the public design amenities can you talk about that. >> yeah. the park is definitely stale part of ptosis phase one and ken rich said we're working with the mayor's office to get the park opened cellular a they and that's scheduled late 2017. >> how is the park being paid for . >> we're going t work with the mayor's office. >> i've heard $29 million gap is that the - >> the total amount direct and indirect. >> the total amount it $37 million. >> so through the grapevine you'll meningitis the $37 million for the parks will or may come out of the mel ruse a that's another $37 million less for the downtown extension is that fair. >> you said 16 is an equivalent amount. >> so 618 minus 37. >> you see sort of the pattern of my questions i'm concerned with since this project is it will be out of the ground zoo soon but there's plenty of opportunity for cost changes. i'm going to predict every time the cost change or some increased costs that's we've got this pot of money that would have been $818 million to downtown and now down to 6 hundred plus million dollars now the shortfall from the park comes out of the mel ruse you down to 581 i see the number diminishing and diminishing further you know urge to get to the next page and i know you'll get there i know you're as passionate about the dp x i want to make sure we're not shooting ourselves in the foot by viewing the mel ruse you funds instead of trying to gaud them, you know, zealously for use in the d t x, x but use them to make up shortfalls i'm concerned it might be used to pay for the parks. it's the easy way out to take it out of the mel ruse >> i agree with you supervisor wiener we're surfacing a robust market we've got $6 million for the building of the transit center. it depletes the number of contractors that are able to bid that's if you have less contractors bidding it becomes harder. we've come up with a thirty miles mitigation plan cost reductions but i agree with we need to deal with the construction confidence increases >> the costs so in addition to the park issue we have to go into the downtown extension funds to make up the quest some of those costs are toubl to me a to make this a masterpiece so talk about the measures. >> and what they total in costs. >> the proposal the plan we presented to the board at muni it talked about the phase two. >> is that - that's going to be paid out of phase two. >> it's deleting the costs. >> it will be paid for out of the downtown costs and if we need it this is electrical work that is above but we during phase two we'll very visit it and see if it's necessary or not the park is $5 million so we've looked at the need for phase one and reduced our scope for the information technology and the irrigation plan we know what we need as he mention we've deferred some of the equipment and the xhaerments from phase one to two we want to make that simpler. we also removed the glass concrete covering this is g f r.c. to reduce concrete make it nicer we'll paint the concrete and take other measures to achieve some results. we've also number two, of using stainless steel we're going to use the galvanizing steel. we are reducing our ceilings designed to make p that more off the shelf and designer made. we're redesigning some of the barriers on the bus tech it has a steel barrier and we're going to replace that by a steel barrier so a lot of the cost reductions the public will be able to use the park and this transit center >> it won't look as good. >> well, it will be very nice. >> in terms of those cost-cutting measures that will impact sort of the aesthetics and experience that people not the transit experience but the experience of people insides the center using the center what's the total costs in terms of the downgrading of those aesthetic amenities. >> presidential approximately 10 to $15 million of the numbers it's in that range if you take the electrical scope. >> so we'll get that list so see the phase two and some of the amenities and the total of the amenity that have been downgraded to save money? >> we like to call it valley jerry. >> if i call it either one. >> supervisor kim. >> thank you. just wanted to talk about since we're talking about phase the one budget the largest increase was not the construction but the r v and the security plan. i know it's a point i've brought up over and over to the joint powers authority board i know we've it look at outing how to take a to the a the increases largely match the dollar for dollar that's a place we should continue to examine the board has questions we had one consultant look at the plan and it's a difficult position for us we don't want to sacrifice security, of course, a very dense area of downtown it didn't help the department of homelands security for what that means it's important to look at that. i'll add that i'm happy to see we'll have an altitude oversight that manages