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economies. >> we will talk about that david. good to see you as always. pulitzer prize-winning investigative journalist, he's the cofounder of the seaport dot org. he's the author of 9 to 10 books, many of them about trump, the big cheat how donald trump -- was gone system -- and on access to abortion an it paid off. in a state that voted for trum in 2016, we're going t wisconsin later. plus, some good news to star your weekend a strong jobs report, i'll break down the 236,000 jobs at it and what those numbers mean for you. another hour of while sh begins right now >> analogy, starting with bombshell federal court ruling that could present the biggest rollback of abortion right since roe v. wade wa overturned and the

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that were literally endangerin the lives of both patients who need abortions for any reaso and patients to doctors woul have relied upon this drug t help manage their miscarriages , but there is a plot twist, within an hour of his ruling out of texas came anothe ruling, this time for th federal judge in washingto state. a group of democratic people had filed a suit to force th fda to make the same abortio drug, mifepristone, more accessible and to block th government from taking any action that would restrict access to that drug. the judge in that case, and bomb appointee thomas rice partially granted th plaintiffs request he did not agree to make the drug more accessible, but hi ruling does barr the fda fro doing anything that would make it less available in the state that brought the lawsuit states where abortion remain legal. so now the fda is looking at two directly contradictory orders, both from federa judges which means that one wa

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a judge has merrick's ruling had in terms of inflammatory and partisan language. he said patience use this to quote kill the on born baby, judges usually use the ter fetus, he referred the process as a chemical abortion kill, baby, chemical burin are words we usually hear from judges when discussing abortion whether not they have antipath towards abortion judge has merrick knows that this is is an important ruling that is going to be scrutinized. does this give forces that don't agree with him and h likes? >> you know, judge has merrick was opposed when he wa nominated to the bench because people understood that he wa going to be a zealot he is a person whose lif experience includes voluntee -ism in the crisis pregnancy movement that is a series of center across the country that offe themselves to women as if they are reproductive healt clinics. really what they are offerin

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constitutional right t abortion was eliminated in thi country nearly a year ago. a federal judge in texas las night issued a sweeping ruling to reverse the food and's 23 year old approval of a key abortion drug, the rulin orders the fda to hold thi medication from pharmacy shelves in every state regardless of whether or not abortion is legal in tha state. u.s. district judge matthew ha put a seven-day hold on hi willing to give the government the opportunity to repeal it the justice department did fil a notice of appeal last night. let me tell you what is at stake here the drug in question is one of a standard two drug regiment commonly prescribed by doctors for medication abortion across the country. medication abortions account for more than half of al abortions in the united states according to the good doctor institute. and this was approved by the fda in 2000 is one the mos heavily studied and scrutinize

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your 18 times more likely to die by hearing a pregnancy t term than having an abortion the supreme court refers to th state of mississippi and it is claim is about protecting th health and safety of women i that state, which could not be true we have a supreme court that sadly enough has shown reproductive rights cases that it is willing to listen to this >> to your point by the wa michelle, this medication is also used to manag miscarriages one of the things in this bloc of states in the southeast o this country is that there i an abiding and developing fear among women who are pregnant about what if they sharply thing out. what happens if something like a miscarriage happens becaus they don't want to b prosecuted and the doctors and want to be prosecuted. >> well that is right, this is the wild, wild west we fin ourselves in with the suprem court who has been unsympathetic to health an science data the united states is the

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is an off ramp for anythin about abortion and the situationally avoid lettin women know that they have th option to have an abortion they basically shone peopl into adoption and or other options to guarantee that they give birth judge has merrick has been a long time volunteer in tha movement i think the supreme court has series of off-ramps here, no just because of his language but to michelle's point, the decision is wholly outcome determinant on a number of legal issues like standing whether the plaintiff' exhaustive, their rabbit ears. this is a 23 year old approval by the fda one might question why didn' they sooner. there's a number of places where the supreme court coul take a convenient off ramp without even having to go into the really complex and partisa issues of abortion if they'r willing to take it the other thing i would say is this decision is antithetica to dobbs itself. there is a number of pro-choic attorney generals who filed

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transformative this ruling i and the need to pause it t grant that stay, i expect we will be in front the supreme court sooner than we know it ali. >> let's assume that to be the case michelle, let's take the supreme court, there are a lot of people in this audience and in this country who would say, this is doomed, if it goes t the supreme court we know ho that's going to go except there are specifics about this case that are a little bit perverse. the judge's comments in a lo of cases that far exceed wha the faintest were even saying. the issues of standing, th comments he makes about wome and their inability to represent themselves in a case if you had an abortion, yo have to musculature partly think straight the fact that there is a competing decision by anothe federal judge. it - is a less obvious that it migh be the supreme court, they may have an issue with this really >> but one would hope so excep that what we understand from the dobbs decision, from the lobby decision is that the supreme court is willing to th

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drugs on the market. studies show that it is safe than penicillin, via, or eve tylenol, to understand why the safe effective and crucial dru is on the verge of being yanked, you need to understand the post-roe antiabortion movement a movement that is not content with their win on this issue i the supreme court. a movement that will not res until no one in this country can get an abortion. until forced birth is the la of the land, a movement that i looking for any opportunity to further rollback women's healt rights here is what happened. just a couple of months afte roe was overturned, and anti abortion group filed a corporation paper in all place amarillo, texas. three months after that, the filed a federal lawsuit seekin to revoke the fda's approval o mifepristone there's a reason why the group filed this particular lawsui in amarillo, texas that is that the only federa judge who hears cases in amarillo is the way fo

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brief or they said, if dobbs i serious about what it is said, that the decision abou abortion should be returned to the states, that people an their elected representative then, this decision is wholl at odds with dobbs dobbs and this decision cannot coexist. i think that offers the suprem court and off ramp as well i they are willing and brave enough to take it. >> the governor of washingto state is very worried abou this, there's a stockpile of three years for women who live in states like california or new york or the places where abortion remains illegal they don't think there was any threat for them. more than half of women us this to drug combination t have an abortion should people be buying this >> let me say this in the washington litigation we see that the court has said that the fda should do nothing to decrease access t

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mentioned matt because merrick and ultraconservative devout christian trump appointee whos history of antiabortion view is well documented following the senate confirmation hearing republican senator susan collins joined every votin democrat in opposing car merrick's nomination to th bench, citing his extreme view on abortion and opposition t lgbtq rights she said the time quote, suc extreme statements reflect poorly on his temperament an suggest an inability to respec president and to apply the law fairly and impartially and quote. now as you would expect, mat incas barricades delivered t the antiabortion movemen exactly what they came for and order to remove from the market a safe effective an widely used abortion drug. it is a ruling that will force doctors to treat our patient with what they know is a lower standard of care every link that will roll back the bodily autonomy an reproductive freedom of half the american population and on

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