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Years consolidating his power. but the idea that someone else can replace mbs is wrong. whats going to happen is they are going to come up with a lie that this is some rogue element and we are going to accept the lie in some way, shape, or form. the price is going to be whats the price for accepting the lie there is going to be a sign from mbs knowing that he made a mistake, no he made his country a pariah, and hes going to make steps to make sure this doesnt happen again. weve seen political pr...

Relations with cutter. they may be trying to reconcile saudi arabia and cutter. and trying to do a deal by which they dont release some of the tapes if there is some agreement. but the turks need to give us what they have. and frankly it doesnt seem that the trump administration is pressing the turks very hard to give us that information given how little donald trump seems to know and how much news reporters know who are in touch with turkish sources. >> it also seems entirely plausible that the...

And frankly it doesnt seem that the trump administration is pressing the turks very hard to give us that information given how little donald trump seems to know and how much news reporters know who are in touch with turkish sources. >> it also seems entirely plausible that the president of the united states and the saudi regime concludes there were some rogue elements, it was an extradition gone wrong and the turks leak a tape of the guy being murdered, literally. >> again, the saudis have been ...

Possible explanation of what happens despite the facts and the reality. so this idea of rogue killers have one that probably was bandied about. i dont believe for a moment the fact this took place in a mission in turkey and there were plane loads of saudis who went there. mbs, the crown prince, has a stranglehold over the saudi governments security and intelligence apparatus. i find it so farfetcheded that anything like this could happen without his intimate knowledge and approval beforehand. >>...

Policy matter. do you think? >> i think -- i mean, past is precedent certainly here, and i think thats a very strong argument. it seems that this has particularly hit a chord, and i think emotions are strong. whether that lasts in the next couple of weeks, and pending the results of the investigation if it sorts out to be credible. >> clearly, susan, the president wants to take the saudi denials at face value, whether from the king or the crown prince. >> right. so he is doing the saudi pr work ...

Dana, is that this is a major diplomatic crisis the u.s. will have to deal with. >> dana: the wall street journal is reporting -- this isnt the wall street journal saying tuesdays meetings may be a precursor between the u.s., saudi arabia and turkey on a joint public response to the crisis. i gotta say, id be very surprised, why should the united states have to issue a joint statement about this? i understand the president sent secretary pompeo there. send him there, get there, get the informati...

Botched, kind of kidnapping attempt. we call it a rendition, when somebody is extra territorially abducted and taken to another, questioned for investigation. you know the u.s. has a long is history of that with black sites during the bush administration. the u.s. has ended that practice, but its still practiced in many countries around the world, and in particular, saudi arabia. and the idea was that jamal would be kidnapped from saudi arabia -- from turkey, taken back home to saudi arabia, int...

Turks and saudis are going to do a joint inspection? is this a way for the saudis to work with the turks to possibly find a way to put this behind them. stph >> well, the conclusions that any investigation comes to are going to have to be credible. the notion that this was done simply by rogue element is not going to pass a laugh test. this has to be a credible and serious investigation. i dont know where its going to leave the crown prince. >> dana: is it possible that the crown prince would ha...

It is also russians violating the sovereignty of cuba. in a way, it is kind of the same ilk of killing people on british soil. >> josh, any sense that the state department thinks the cubans helped? >> they have not ruled out the possibility that either the cubans or some type of rogue element of the government that was hard liners -- >> i heard that theory. >> could have been involved. but certainly beyond saying cuba is responsible for the safety of all diplomats on the soil, the state departme...

Are framing vladimir putin. thats way too complicated for a conspiracy. i think the fact is they went after scruple to send a message. that anybody that betroys vladimir putin they will come after him where ever he is. and it was a political message. so i think and the russians are not cooperating on this. they are not opening their laboratories to let us examine this nerve agent. which would tell us a lot. theyre not -- theyre dragging their feet. its implausible this attack on scruple was carr...