information technology, right? or, to put it simply, brains. anthony: you teach chess in school, is that? ruben: yes. anthony: in school? ruben: yup, in school. anthony: starting at what age? arthur: third grade. my son hates it. he s a fourth grader. ruben: second grade. anthony: so everybody plays chess or was taught chess? ruben yeah, everybody. anthony: that already is a harut: i have a ranking, actually. arthur: really? i didn t know. come on. harut: small one, but- anthony: yeah, but that s a very different mentality than most places. harut: we have actually, my mom took me to chess class. it was not because of the country is like a super nation in chess or something, just she wanted to take me someplace where i can develop my brains. ruben: but actually, there s a quick answer. when you are being oppressed during your history, knowledge is something that cannot be taken off you. anything can happen. soviet union can collapse, there can be pogroms,