i ve seen for the most trivial of things, in this case being run over by a foot, fight over a parking space, brawl in a bathroom. most trivial turned deadly. as a waco police officer said just recently, it s not over. we ll continue to follow this story for the latest developments, thanks so much. we re going to talk with a criminal defense attorney, the author of running with the devil. the true story of the atf infillation of the hell s angels. what is it about gang culture that causes an argument or dispute to escalate into something we see go completely off the rails like this into a mini war zone? well thank you for having me on the show first ofhvsóq a rival gang member disrespecting another gang member. it can be cutting in line. disrespecting a particular cut they are wearing. i know that0o[.ñ the actual cause of
gunfire. 15 would eventually be sent to prison. it was the deadliest biker brawl in american history until this sunday s shootout in texas. joining me now is kerry drovan who wrote running with the devil. we tend to romanticize the idea of outlaws. tell us a little bit more about how these groups function and their connection to organized crime. well, it s true they are glamourized. but they are really the mafia on wheels. they are a group of highly organized criminals. it s a criminal organization. they take their hierarchical strukture structure from the military. there s a prospecting period where people have to get a sponsor and woo over the people in power. then they get fully patched in, which is equivalent to being a made member. and then they commit organized crime.