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You can still make it part of the standard or the default, will you lets not take the options off the table. >> thats not his plan. >> michael, i know you to be a compassionate guy. if you want to do a default plan, ill listen, because what it means is that the medicare option of staying in medicare is still available to seniors if they choose it, but this they want this voucher, they can go ahead and get it. thats something thats worth discussing, but the ryan plan doesnt say that. let me tell ...

Him personally? >> we will, we have legal issues im not expert on. it is stated policy that we are not targeting an individual but we can target the pillars of his power and those are what i have described and it what i would endorse. >> if i could just say, i support what nato did. i thought that was a good use of the mandate. this is the way to end this. thousands of people are subject to die the long they are takes. no one in the world is going to regret qaddafi being replaced, however, you d...

Consider means testing. which the way, the premium support has been supported by democrats. president clintons commission in the 1990s supported a version of it. it is not out of the ballpark to take a look at it. >> chris: at the latest fox news poll on proposals to cut the deficit reforming did i medicare to a voucher system. increasing taxes on those making $200,000 or more. 63% support and 36% oppose. bill kristol, are democrats who seem to think that the republicans have handed them a big w...

Im not going to vote for any long-term extension of the debt unless there is a credible and serious plan to deal with the debt. >> chris: is a cap a serious plan? >> i dont know. i have not seen the details of it. i dont know how it works or if it would work. what i have to see is a comprehensive plan. i want to see the revenue system reformed. fundamental tax reform. i want toe see the spending side of the equation dealt with. look, we are right now we have the revenue of the united states is t...

Believe to be compete failure over time. if you can get a better way to do it, do it. but just criticizing someone trying to fix the problem doesnt impress me. you got a better alternative, put it on the floor and lets vote on it. >> chris: i want to talk about the most immediate problem which is the debt limit and you have to deal with and both of you say that letting the country go into default would be draconian, that is the last one -- would be catastrophic but both also say that you will no...

Courageous. i do think mr. ryan is sincere. i think he is a patriot. i think he wants to solve a real problem, which is our long term deficit. but i think that what he and the other republicans in the house of representatives also want to do is change our social compact in a pretty fundamental way. >> you know, saying hes a patriot, willie, thats better than saying his plan is un-american. he got some of those polls, saw the independents sliding away and came out a couple days ago saying reach o...

Over at the white house today talking to top officials, they think they have a political winner defending medicaid and medicare, and they think they have a top winner going after tax cuts. the only problem with that is, it was not that long ago the president went along with continuing those tax rates. he said it was because he wanted to preserve tax cuts for the middle class. if congress does separate it out for him, hell knock it out of the ballpark with a veto. >> to the details of the plan --...

Mr. ryans plans, we end medicare as a guaranteed program for seniors, thats the simple facts. if you dont like it, vote no. >> you know that the ryan plan transforms it to put market forces in there. >> what does transform it mean? what does it mean in english good it takes it to a voucher program so seniors can get out. were talking about people under 55 years old, medicare as we know it will not exist, because its on a path to go broke. you have to make some changes. and i welcome the presiden...

Think they have a political winner defending medicaid and medicare, and they think they have a top winner going after tax cuts. the only problem with that is, it was not that long ago the president went along with continuing those tax rates. he said it was because he wanted to preserve tax cuts for the middle class. if congress does separate it out for him, hell knock it out of the ballpark with a veto. >> to the details of the plan -- in fact, the two plans, we have an obama plan and response t...

The ryan plan has $4.3 trillion in budget cuts over the coming decade. huge cuts in medicaid, and then the medicare cuts get even bigger in the decade after that. it use s most of that money for tax cuts, 4.2 trillion in tax cuts. in the health care area, you know what the ryan plan does, it actually makes medicare more expensive, but it saves money for the government by having the government pay so much less of the cost of medicare that its a huge shift on to the backs of beneficiaries, it shif...