and what hangs in the balance, carol, is the future of about 30,000 current and retired city workers. they re the ones whose pension is in question. what is going to happen? that is going to be determined by negotiations and a federal bankruptcy jumg. this could take years. a firefighter retired told me, you know, it s a mess that we re prepared to fight for what we owe. we re not asking for a penny more, we re asking for what we re owed. that is the big question. who is going to get paid back and who is going to see that they re owed cut. some cut has to come from s somewhere. what choice does detroit have? remember new york city was on the verge of bankruptcy and the federal government bailed it out. what about detroit? so, that s such an interesting question. i just asked a pensioner here who has sued trying to block this. i said, do you think the federal