That kind of charm, he was a champion of providence. The city was a drowned downtrodden city. He would go on national tv and go on the dawn show when it was really popular and sing the citys praises. People loved him for that. They figured we have ours had corruption but at least he made us feel good about ourselves. He help but providence back on the map. So that is why people loved him. For more information on booktvs recent visit to Providence Rhode island and the many other cities those visited by local content videos go to cspan. Org localcontent. Now on booktv sarah gordon talks about religious cases in u. S. History to transform the laws of the country and eliminated protection to religion in the u. S. Constitution. This interview part of booktvs College Series was recorded at the university of pennsylvania will pennsylvania. Its about 20 minutes. University of pennsylvania professor sarah gordon, the spirit of the law is her most recent book. What do you mean when you talk abou