they want to wrap this thing up obviously as soon as possible. honestly you talk about what looks bad for tom brady, what looks bad for the envelope and how they pursued this entire thing and how roger goodell sat there and drew a conclusion that tom brady was guilty and worked his way backwards in the testimony. i find that really it may be a black eye to tom brady certainly for the nfl and the way they handled this entire ordeal is really kind of shameful. >> scott ben, thank you both. and our cover news debates continues in just moments. you are going to hear from another 2016 presidential candidate. "on the record" takes you pack to cleveland next. multiple foreign objects in the body. tweezers. (buzz!) (buzz!) if you're the guy from the operation game, you get operated on. it's what you do. (buzz!)
like a well run business. >> this is very clear. we need to secure the border period. >> today begins the journey to take america back. [cheers and applause] >> hello i'm jim gilmore and today i'm announcing my candidacy for the republican nomination for president of the united states. >> creating jobs is our highest moral purpose and we will move to get that done. >> the next president of the united states must reestablish our leadership. she must speak with clarity. >> and that's why working together we can fight and win for america. >> let the next decade bees decade when america proves to the world you ain't seen nothing yet. [cheers and applause] >> the reason i'm running for president is i know for certain our country's best days lie ahead. i will take money and power out of washington and put it back where our constitution says it belongs, in the people who earned it. >> i live in an exceptional country where the son of a bartender and a maid can have the same dreams and future as those who come from power and privilege. >> it's nobody's turn. it's everybody's test. and it's wide open. exactly as the contest for president should be. [cheers and applause] one of the 2016 presidential candidates kicking off that 5:00 p.m. eastern debate is former hp ceo carly fiorina. she is here to go "on the record." thanks carlie. >> great to be with you. thanks for having me. >> what's your overall strategy tomorrow? when you walk off that stage, what do you want to have accomplished? >> i want people to know who i am because only 40% of republicans have heard my name. i you have the lowest name i.d. of anyone in the field. i want people to understand that i can win this job and do this job. i want people to understand something of what i will do when i'm in the job. >> well, you say people don't know you only 40% know you it seems to me that there is a lot of gender identification in the democratic party. i think a lot of women are cheerleading secretary clinton to run for the white house because it's fun to have a white house for some women. are you getting that g.o.p. woman sort of girl power stuff? >> well, of the women who know me yes they are excited. because i'm not a professional politician, i really started my campaign in the early part of may from a standing start. honestly, if you look at the polls, only 40% of republican voters know who i am. i have a lot of introductions still to go. i think tomorrow will be be a great opportunity to begin that with people who don't know i'm running. >> you like donald trump come from a business background. you aren't career politicians. you have tapped into anger. do you want to tap into anger and how does that facilitate the race? >> well, look. i think people are frustrated and angry about a professional political class that has failed them. let's be honest. we are talking about border secure in this election cycle can as we always do. how long have we been talking about that? 25 years. how long have we we known the border was insecure? at least 25 years. how long has the border not been secure? 25 years. how long has the v.a. been a stain on our honor. how long have we been talking as conservatives of shrinking the size of government. yet it gets bigger every single year. yes, worse under obama. the truth is government has been getting bigger for almost 50 years. the political class has failed people it is why people ren couraging of my candidacy because i understand the economy the world, how it works, who is in it, bureaucracies how to hold them accountable and cut them down to size and technology which is a great tool but also a weapon being used against us. you are both business people, do you know business and economy better than donald trump? >> i have had a very different set of experiences than donald trump. i started out as a secretary. i went on eventually to lead the largest technology company in the world. so it's a very different experience of working my way up of building businesses in the technology sphere as well i have, as i mentioned to you i know more world leaders on the stage today than anyone running with the possible exception of hillary clinton. only i didn't do photo ops. i wrestled with bureaucracies i know what they're. i know how we need to hold them accountable. i know how important zero based budgeting is and i understand technology. i actually think in the 21st century that matters a lot. >> you mentioned bureaucracy. that you know bureaucracy. here in washington, is the bureaucracy. we also have enormous divide. you i mean, it's like the hatfields and the mccoys. and so nothing gets done. do you see yourself as -- i mean any sort of unique ability or something? not to agree with your political opponent but somehow get people on the same page to have a common goal. you can do that? >> yes. and you know how? by tapping the power of citizens. citizens, whether they are democrats, independents, or republicans know something is really wrong. let me give you an example zero based budgeting assistance term for knowing where every single collar -- dollar is being sent justify some dollars and get rid of other dollars. i would ask the american citizens to take out their smart phones and ask them a very simple question. do you think it's important that we know where your money is being spent press one for yes and two for know. they will vote. they will press one for yes. it uses the power of citizenry to put pressure on the professional political class to respond. >> more than 40% will know you after tomorrow night and i hope you will join us again "on the record." thank you carlie. >> always a pleasure. thank you greta. how will republican candidates take on frontrunner donald trump? >> you are up against a guy that is even more flamboyant than you? >> that's okay. i will do fine. >> do you know him. >> we have been friends for 13 years i know him well. >> you know donald trump well? >> yes sir. >> however, he is doing almost what you you do, appealing to the populist vote of the party. he is doing what you do. you are both flamboyant. you are both straight talkers. how are you going to overcome him? >> i'm not going to worry about overcoming him bill. >> are you going to go after him if he says something dopey? >> listen, i'm going to be myself. >> the "on the record" political panel joins us daily best woodruff and bob cusack. i think even chris wallace has said that he is this is going to be the donald trump show they are trying not to have it what's going to happen? >> he is center stage most of the candidates are going to go after donald trump. the news is donald trump. the head lines the next day will be about donald trump. what they will say we don't know. they have to go after him. greta, is he a frontrunner. >> i don't know, does anyone dare go after donald trump because you go after donald trump, he nukes you. lindsey graham and governor perry said they only got glasses to look smarter he hits hard. >> eyen' front runner. they will have to somehow be connected to trump. every single news story written about this debate will include the name trump. not all these stories will included came in right-hand paul or include the name chris christie or head to testify head if they want any attention at all. >> i think he is going to lap this up. i don't think he is going to be-i-i think he is going to be quite measured tomorrow night for some reason. he will lap it up as everyone talks about him. >> i think you are right. he will try to be measured. touch his buttons. he has dialed it down a little bit. he has also lowered expectations. that's smart that's what candidate should do. one candidate that will not go on very hard. jeb bush thinks i'm the tortoise. i'm going to youth last. dolls he go after him? >> i read a story that i couldn't stont trending. called donald trump and urged him to run. in the hill which i think was taken to the "the washington post." >> it was a heck of a report. look, on the other on the one hand, if ran he would throw the republican field in chaos. on the other hand, it's not a shock. he had a front seat. these families have talked about iewch other. the fact that they talk about this eye catching? not stunning. >> i would luke to know if the phone call mass made because secretary clinton or made after? >> a lot of conspiracy theories about how the clintons could have tried to get trump in the race because that's going it help hillary clinton. a very unusual call. listen, it could be mentioned tomorrow night. >> boy betsy aren't the g.o.p. women where are they on carly fiorina? i don't see them rallying around her much. >> to be honest most republican voters aren't rallying around carly fiorina. criticism, upset about her had. she hasn't generated the kind of excitement or controversy other republicans have. >> so maybe tomorrow night is a big night for her. >> maybe she can drop some bombs. republican voters don't vote along the same lines. looking as the gender. much more interested about -- >> speaking of ideology, bob, you can slain to me bernie sanders is a registered independent and he a socialist. how in the world are are the democrats letting him run as a democrat? who is not putting him in check? >> it's a good question debbie wasserman schultz the chairman of the dp. >> he has been a an independent and socialist all his life and he is proud of it. >> there is some legal questions that he will try to change his party affiliation and someone could say wait a minute, you are not a democrat. >> anyway. never dull. thank you. tomorrow night is a big night on fox news. fox news carl cameron is in cleveland while preparations are underway. what's the buzz tonight one day before the two debates? >> hi, greta. candidates are are beginning to arrive here this morning. tez cruz and marco rubio. scott walker is going to be later than the rest of the crowd because he has got to open up state fair in his statement something he has done suns he was governor. we will have the first debate at 5:00 in the afternoon with the seven candidates did not maketh big ten and the pram time debate. all your previous yfertion donald trump has said he wants it to be a civil debate. he doesn't want to take the first punch. he calls himself counter punching. each time he says something about another candidate felt provoked and they said something disparaging about him. he has called the rest of the field incompetent and losers. politicians and elsewhere in the country not getting the job done so need new luke him he needs to show that e. can physically plausible of presidents. it's not against the stage for the democratic follow me. he has to look like he can actually fill the suit and the seat at the desk. and in addition to that the way to do it really is to show a real knowledgeability of policy. so far when he has been asked questions he usually talks about a great job he will do but not how. that's something you will see him have to answer for. beyond that he is the front run her so he has got the most to lose. that means some folks at the other end have a lot to gain by making a lot of noise. jeb bush has to watch out because he will be standing literally to mr. trump. scott walker who tripped in the polls he has to sara he is not -- his winning record in wisconsin can translate beyond the midwest. we're here in ohio he is from wisconsin. how he does two very different regions of the country tomorrow night is an opportunity to introduce him. greta? >> karl, thank you. and make no mistake about it ohio is key. it's the 2016 battleground state and in just a few hours ohio does play host to these two big debates. one big question, as republicans look towards 2016 will they be able to win over new voters. cuyahoga county, the most populist county in ohio with the most registered republicans joins us. rob, nice to join you. how are you going to get those new voters because last time around president obama beat mitt romney in your state. >> greta, thank you for having me on and you are exactly right. >> i aim a city in a cleveland that has african-american american population. >> i know the we face we do that by engaging with nontraditional republicans. getting out and registering people to vote. engaging on issues about economic opportunity and education. we're doing it and we see the results. we see the results just even last year. our governor john kasich. card democrat cuyahoga county biousing to being. we can do that vote again in 2016. >> that must be -- everyone in ohio then must look with great pride at least the republicans as governor john kasich takes the stage tomorrow night in the second debate. has he been able to -- i looked at the unemployment rates in cleveland very high for african-americans. but my data is about two years old. has he been able to win across the state african-americans as well as lower that african-american unemployment rate? >> he has been able to. he has been across the board, creating jobs, getting people back to work. taking us from a budget deficit to a budget surplus while cutting taxes. that is universal. that's opportunity for everybody. but particularly, what he has been doing is attending to the needs of the city of cleveland and we have been working with him in that. and we saw with all that governor kasich was able to do, for example on the cleveland schools transformation plan, taking the time, being up here, now, we have got a dynamic change in education here in cleveland that's taking hold. and that's thanks to husband leadership. so we, too, we are very pleased he has made it to the debate stage. and we think he is going to have some strong ideas to share with the country tomorrow night. >> all right. we only have 30 seconds left. what about the gay population. is there a big tent in the republican party in ohio for the gay population? >> the republican party here in cuyahoga county, we know that we win by addition, not by subtraction. when the gay games came to cleveland last summer we were there. cuyahoga county republican party with a welcome tent saying welcome to cleveland. we are adding people to this party. we are affidavitting numbers by voter registration. we are adding by engaging and making new friends and saying if you believe in the ideals of the republican party opportunity for all strong national defense. personal responsibility and lower taxes our candidate our nominee next year is going to be the candidate for you. >> rob, thank you very much. awful eyes on your state ohio and especially tomorrow night. thank you ron. >> thanks for having me on. >> okay, viewers what do you want to hear from the candidates tomorrow? what does allen west want to hear? let's find out. he is here. knives to see you colonel. >> good to be with you greta. >> okay. sir. what do you want to hear tomorrow night? >> well, i think the most important thing is you have someone that as your previous guest talked about how do we restore the opportunity to society and opportunity economy in the united states of america. you don't want to come out and talk about a bunch of numbers. but you want to make the connection with the american people to say that it is about their economic grot. it is about their prosperity. it is about better education opportunities and it is also about keeping america safe. and i think that president obama, with his speech today on the iranian agreement just gave the republican candidates an incredible platform to talk about foreign policy and national security. >> okay. are you looking then towards -- let's face it, three of the candidates tomorrow night are first term senators. senator ted cruz, senator marco rubio and senator rand paul. does that mean because they don't quite have the governing production record that you might have with a governor with a bush, a christie or kasich or walker, are you leaning towards more looking at a governor someone who has been a governor? >> well, there is no doubt that the governor has a little bit of an edge over a first term senator. and when you think about the fact that we have a first term senator in the white house right now and it hasn't worked out very well, they have to truly be able to differentiate themselves from the person that currently occupies the white house and talk about their vision for america. and i think that the governors that are there especially governor kasich is going to have a little bit of a a home field advantage, there is no doubt about that. but i believe that the most important thing is not the circular firing squad but to talk about how they could be the best person to bring about the messes of restoring. all right. colonel, have to vote tomorrow before the debate. who is your candidate? >> right now, i couldn't tell you that. >> oh, come on. who are you leaning towards? give me a hint. >> i mean, you can't play the hypothetical game. >> but you know them. you are telling me you don't know them and know their background and know their policy. >> we don't know them all and we need to take them crew the crucible of debate i process and see who really does come out on top. it's a long way until next november. it's a long ways even until the end of this year. >> all right. well, you know what? you can vote anonymously tomorrow night on our twitter vote and nobody will even know. you can can always change your vote. >> i won't tell you. >> we will be doing these polls a lot. colonel west, thank you sir. >> it's a pleasure, thank you. >> once again here is the fox debate night plan. first, tune in tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern for the early debate. then the prime time debate coverage starts at 8:50 p.m. eastern. live from cleveland ohio. right after each of the debates, you will be able to watch the fox news debate digital chat. so join fox news host who will discuss the debates on foxnews.com. and fox news mobile app. now, that's tomorrow night. 6:00 and 11:00 p.m. eastern. of course, we have more on the big debate later in this hour. and finally in answer to the biggest mystery in aviation history. a live report. that's next. also, there is some grim news. is this a copycat? just a short time ago another movie theater shooting. a live report straightan ahead. ve served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. finally official. results are now in. that piece of airplane last week in the indian ocean is indeed part of malaysian flight 370. that's the flight that mysteriously vanished more than a year ago. in france where the investigation is still underway. catherine, what you can tell me? >> what i can tell you greta, is there were two parts of the investigation which helped the actual overall investigation get to this decision today. one was that the boeing aircraft company provided information on this particular part of the wing that had been washed up as the reunion island in the indian ocean. boeing had given investigators because the size, the color and the joint structure of this particular part of the wing. malaysian airlines had also shared technical details common characteristics. it has not gone as far as malaysian prime minister in saying this is absolute certainty. he has only said there is a very strong likelihood that this part of the wing does belong to the boeing 777 that was operated by malaysian airlines. so what they are going to do greta. going to come back again on thursday special unit compliment analysis. this additional testing the french is saying they will need it before they say for sure that this actually is hundred% from mh 370; greta? >> catherine isn't there is a serial number on this wing at least a partial one and doesn't boeing have those records? meticulous records are kept on these aircrafts? it seems like there is an awful lot of thinking about this. >> you are quite right greta. there is a serial number. boeing has given them the serial number. there are reports, of course tonight that that serial number wasn't actually seen and that some of the representatives particularry from the united states weren't actually happy that every t had been crossed and every i had been dotted on this investigation. which is why they wanted to come back tomorrow. because, when they come back they can then do more, you know, much deeper analysis at the moment they have only been at this for about three and a half hours. so they are going to go back. they are going to be using ultrasound technology. the french have also got this scanner a microscope that can magnify things up to 100,000 times its formal size. they want more details before they are more precise. greta? >> catherine, thank you etch have. >> thank you. >> and this is grim. it just happened again. another shooting at a movie theater. "on the record" has a live report next. live loud. super poligrip. get strong all day hold. when i started at the shelter, i noticed benny right away. i just had to adopt him. he's older so he needs my help all day. when my back pain flared upt i took tylenol at first but i had to take 6 pills to get through the day. then my friend said "try aleve". just two pills, all day. and now, i'm back for my best bud! aleve. all day strong and try aleve pm now with an easy open cap. this is a fox news alert. movie theaters across america on alert. just a short time ago another movie theater attack sparking fears of more attacks at other theaters in the u.s. lawsuitest shooting outside of nashville in antioch tennessee. jonathan serrie is there now. jonathan? >> hi, greta. police say the eminent threat is over. but now investigators are trying to determine the circumstances or a motive that led this man it to threaten a november theater in suburban nashville. police say the man who they originally believed to be a 51-year-old local resident may may have been 29. either case he was armed with a gun and what appeared to be a hatchet or ax. he came into the theater wearing a surgical mask and began spraying pepper spray as people were watching mad max in that theater. police happened to be working a nearby auto accident and responded to the theater immediately. a metropolitan national police officer arrived inside the theater. police say the gunman fired on the officer. they say the officer returned fire and then backed away. the swat team moved in and had to don gas mask because the concentration of pepper spray inside the theater was so strock. there was more gunfire and the gunman died at the scene. the gunman was the only fatality. three people were treated at the scene for minor injuries. the gunman had apparently sprayed a man and two females, including a teen with pepper spray. the male victim also suffered minor cuts to his shoulder from the gunman's hatchet. the man who only identified himself as steven spoke to reporters at the scene saying weigh eternally grateful to the police department for their fast response and grateful no one was seriously injured than the gunman who died. he asked people to pray for the gunman's family because it was apparent to him that the gun suffered from some sort of mental illness. although the gunman was killed police were still worried about the scene because gunmen had been carrying two packages including a backpack strapped to his chest. in one of those packages authorities found what appeared to be a bomb. they called in the bomb squad and detonated it but it turned out to be a fake bomb greta? >> did he say anything? when he was doing pepper spray? >> yeah. it said he came into the theater and that he apparently had several canisters initially described as chemical irritant. they are competent it was pepper spray and he began spraying it around the theater and at least three individuals received enough of that pepper spray that they needed to be treated here at the scene no one was brought to the hospital. >> did he say anything though? that's what i'm wondering? did he scream anything at all or say anything? >> yes. sorry. i didn't hear the full question greta. authorities have not indicated they were asked that but police have not revealed whether he said anything or whether they have heard that he said anything inside the theater. they also are aware of what they believe to be the gunman's identity however they have not yet released it publicly. >> jonathan, thank you. >> and two new warnings tonight. first, there are new threats from al qaeda and guess what? you are the target. plus a stunning new warningitary families. fox news jennifer griffin is at the pentagon with more on both warnings. jennifer? >> greta taking advantage of the chaos in yemen, al qaeda's most lethal branch, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula has issued two new messages calling for attacks on the u.s. home laged. the first in a letter attributed to the group's leading bomb maker ibrahim al aserrie who has been in hiding since the u.s. drone killed the group's leader on june 9th. asiri beth known for underwear bomb has a bounty on his head. in the letter he praised lone wolf attacks quote we urge to you strike america in its i own home and beyond. aqap took credit of sending the attacker are the charlie hebdo magazine in paris and praised the attack on u.s. military installations in chattanooga, tennessee though there was no evidence that the shooter had a connection to the group. earlier the group posted another ugly can a for attacks on americans to the warriors of lone jihad may allah bless and guide your efforts. the message was reportedly from an aqap senior member who was freed in a massive prison break when the al qaeda affiliate seized control of yemen in april meanwhile a official confirms that the fbi is investigating reports from military families that say that quote middle eastern men have approached them outside their homes in wyoming and colorado asking them questions about their spouse's roles in the military. in one case accusing one of them of being an interrogator. law enforcement is looking into these reports and defense officials encourage military families to contact local authors if they encounter any activity in their homes. >> is the military doing anything to step up security for military here in light of this threat? >> well, greta they had raise the security basically on the perimeter of all these bases it's been at the prove voyeur level the last few months because of these kind of threats. that means there are more checks. there are more armed guards outside of bases. very difficult to guard every military family in the u.s. >> indeed, very, very difficult. you i hope the military families are hearing these reports and take extra caution. jennifer, thank you. >> police arrested the man possible shootings out of camp shelby. the military base outside of mississippi. earlier today soldiers at the base reported shots being fired at pickup truck. shots were fired at camp shelby yesterday too. no one was hurt in either case. and big news for patriots quarterback tom brady his deflate-gate testimony finally going public. that's next. debate coverage continues just minutes. another 2016 presidential candidate standing by to go "on the record" that's straight ahead. did you know that meeting your daily protein needs actually helps to support your muscle health? 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>> >> i have got to be perfectly honest. with the cell phone records that he wasn't willing to turn over, under lawyers' advice you look at it in retrospect my goodness maybe he knew that was the right thing to do about all these other emails getting leaked peyton manning and pool covers and this stuff is out and about what would have happened with his cell phone records had he actually turned those over. i think it's just strange that he is being punished in thed me were what he didn't turn over when the media said there wouldn't be any punishment if you turn over these documents. they are shocked by that somehow. >> ben, if i would have been his lawyer, whether someone is guilty or not guilty. i would say, you know, if they have already had the investigation, it's over. and you want to get rid of your phone. go ahead. >> yeah, except that's not exactly how it happened, greta. >> okay. howe did it happen? >> he disposed of his cell phone on march 5th or 6th. one of those two days meeting with ted wells was march 6th. they didn't want to see the cell phone. they just wanted information from his emails and texts. only certain ones. they gave the attorneys the parameters. we want you to look for these search terms and then tom bread not only did he conveniently destroy his cell phone that day making the content of those text messages unrecoverable. he didn't mention any of this to ted wells and the nfl until two months later. the nfl had no idea that tom brady even destroyed his cell phone that day in march. it wasn't until june that they became aware of this and then it came up at the appeal hearing on june 23rd. so again it's just the optics of it look bad. you would think that tom brady, if he had nothing to hide, he would have been upfront to the nfl on march 6th saying hey i recently replaced my cell phone and i don't have the old one. >> scott we only have about 20 seconds left. the judge has ordered settlement conference august 12th. if not everybody wants it decided by the fourth. the ninth is opening day are to the new england patriots against the pittsburgh steelers? >> yeah. they want to wrap this thing up obviously as soon as possible. honestly you talk about what looks bad for tom brady, what looks bad for the envelope and how they pursued this entire thing and how roger goodell sat there and drew a conclusion that tom brady was guilty and worked his way backwards in the testimony. i find that really it may be a black eye to tom brady certainly for the nfl and the way they handled this entire ordeal is really kind of shameful. >> scott ben, thank you both. and our cover news debates continues in just moments. you are going to hear from another 2016 presidential candidate. 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>> i think that i want the american people to know who i am, what my background is, what i have been able to accomplish and my vision for america. my background is very different from anybody else in this race. growing up in rural america working my way through college and the factory i understand good jobs mean and what it is like to be a working american. >> well, that's a lot like governor kasich. governor kasich grew up in a, woulding class family. i suspect he put himself through college. i don't know. he has created jobs. is he a little bit -- i mean he has got a lot in common with you. is he likewise a governor. how do you distinguish yourself from governor kasich. >> you mentioned governor kasich. i have got to say something here. he is going to be in a different debate. right now it's all about name i.d. and you have a reality show host a brother and son two of presidents. if lebron james was running he would be in that debate instead of governor kasich the governor of ohio. i will distinguish myself by my record what i was able to do as governor of new york. i changed new york with sweeping conservative change more than any other state in america. by the way greta i did it with a state legislature that was more than two to one democrat. no one else can say that, being able it get democrats to vote for conservative change in a blue state. i'm going to be able to bring republicans and democrats together in washington to put in place the changes we need. no one else has that experience. >> all right. well you can't help but note the diss of donald trump. you call him a reality tv show hosts a opposed to a billionaire businessman so is that's a diss. is that part of the strategy to take a couple swipes at him. >> the strategy is to let people to know who you a. am. get democrats to support republican conservative policies and actually change policy. you know, in washington today, you have great sound bites and great posturing but nothing gets done. and part it's because republicans need to get democratic votes. let me give you an example. repeal obamacare. we can't do it without getting enough democrats to get over that 60 vote majority. i could do that. i did it in new york. >> how? how do you get that? how do you do that? >> by reaching across party lines, sitting down and saying we have to repeal obamacare. by the way i understand we have to replace it with an alternative. here is my idea for the alternative. if you accept this or you have some other ideas for alternative, let's work together but you vote with me to repeal obama mayorca. i don't want to be just holding a position and staking out titles or interests. i want to get things done. that's what i did with the democratic legislature in new york. that's what i can do with the republican legislature or a democratic legislature in washington. another enough of the sound bites. enough of the posturing. bring americans together, governor successful. solve our problems and move forward with confidence. >> governor pa tacky nice to talk to you, good luck tomorrow night sir. >> thank you looking forward to it. >> and you have got it see this. we have the best tweet of the day. former president george w. bush reporting to jury duty as the george allen court building in downtown class. the former president selection panel he was not picked to serve as a juror. stayed for about three hours and posed for photos with the other jury candidates. and a brand new greta talk podcast just released. i sit down with sabine, her only son dominic was killed by illegal immigrant. her heart breaking story her wishes for the future and even her thoughts on donald trump. download the newest episode on your phone to itunes, tunein or stitcher. i want to talk to you off-the-record. president obama did something really embarrassing. it's certainly not presidential. that's next. don't forget to watch hannity. he has pollster frank luntz talking 2016 with sean tonight at 10:00 p.m. on hannity. r happy dance. if you sign up for better car replacement, we'll pay for a car that's a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. i have lung cancer. and i've heard it all... the well-meaning advice of friends... the guarded words of doctors... the brave resolve of loved ones... what i haven't heard... what a lot of us haven't heard nearly enough... ...is new news. over 430,000 americans are living with lung cancer today. in fact, every two and a half minutes another person is diagnosed. although there are known risk factors anyone can get lung cancer. and every case is different. but now patients could be hearing some unexpected news. this news goes beyond what you may know today. research is leading to scientific advancements... that could offer some patients the potential of longer life... and the chance to share more moments and memories. news in lung cancer? 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[ laughter ] [ applause ] really i? if one dares to question the wisdom of president obama's deal he then links that person to the enemy to people who chant death to america? now, president obama deliberately planned this punch line drawing a laugh from the university audience. you heard them laughing. but this iranian deal not a laughing matter. and president obama's very cheap shot at anyone daring to oppose him including the many democrats who do is certainly not presidential. but don't you stop -- but don't you stoop to his level and fire back with insult. we have bigger fish to fry than his pettiness today. we need a robust debate. is this iranian deal right for america or not? and that's my off-the-record comment tonight. thank you for being with us. we will see you again tomorrow night. don't forget. catch the early 5:00 p.m. debate. will be able to vote live. see who you think will win with the debate by tweeting the last name. don't forget to use #greta so we can count your vote. see the live results right on the air. see you tomorrow night for a special edition of "on the record" good night. the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. >> it's a fact that the clintons especially hillary, are very guarded. very secretive people. this has erupted into multiple controversies including the email scandal. >> and now the fbi says it will begin a probe to see if hillary clinton violated any national security obligations also bad news for mrs. clinton tipping in the polls. >> obamacare is really, i think, the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. >> how on earth will ben carson break through in the big debate tomorrow night? dr. carson will be here to tell us.
tonight "worldfocus" -- israel rejects a call by the unitedations and sayst will not investigate whether its military committed war crimes during t conflict in gaza last winter. we wl interview a top israeli official. wel take you to moow whether ther are now signs that josef stalin is being rehabilitad. the granddaughr of nikita khrushch weighs in on the controversy. and it's off to rome for part two of our "signatur series," "preserving history." reoring ancient ruins is a noble goal, but whs going to pay r it? fromhe world's leading porters and analysts, here's what's hapning from around the wod. this is "wldfocus." ma possible in part by the following funders -- major support has alsoeen provided by the peter petersonoundation, dedicated to promong fiscal responsibilitynd addressing key economic challenges cing america's future. good evening i'm daljit dhaliwal. yesterday we told you about a united natio investigation ich found that bothsrael and hamas had committedwar crimes during last winter's war in gaza. today reaction to theeport has been swift and it has been strong. united nations invtigators are now calli upon isrl and hamas to conduct their own independent inquies into the allegations. if not, the teamis recommenng that the cas be sent to an internationaar crimes tribunal. israel has rejected that call, blasting the reporas, quote, being conceivedinsin. hamas isn't saying exactly what itlanso . toght's lead focus, john than mler of itn reports o the uproar. he filedhis report late last night. >> reporter: the searing.n. investigatn pulls no punches and accusing both sides of committi actions amountingo war cris and possibly crimes against humanity, too. the 22-day offensiv in gaza that iael called "operation cast lead" killed 10 pastinians and 13 israelis. hamas rockets from gaza nstituted indiscrimite and deliberate attacks on iaeli civilis, the u.n. fact fding mission concluded. isra, accusedf directing i mitary operation athe people ga. ofhe direct targeting and artrary killing of civilians, the wanon destrucon o property. the former chief prosecutor from two u.n. criminal tribunal for the formerugoslavia and for rwanda led the four-man gaza investigation missio this afternoon in new yk judge richar goldsto of south africa pesented the findings of his 574-pagereport. >> there is stng evidence to establish that numerousserious violatio of international law, bo human tear and huma rights law, were coitted by israel during the military operatns in gaza. the mison concluded that actions aounting to war crimes and possibly insome respec crimes against humanity were mmitted by the israel defense force. turning to the palestinian-armed groups, there's no qution that e firing of rockets and mortars was delerate and calculated to caus loss of life and injuryto civiliansnd mage to civilian stuctures. th mission found that these tions also amount toerious war crimes and also possib crimes against humanity. >> reporter: the bulkf the report fcusing on alleged israeli defense force violation of intertional humanitarian law. if found that the iidence and patterns o evidence in the report were the result of deliberate planning and policy decisions. threport notes that tese incidents indicate that the instructions given to the iseli forces moving into gaza prided for what it clled a low threshol for the use of lethal fire against the civilian popution. israel is accused of using paleinian civilians as hman shields and of being syematically reckless its use of whitehosphorus shells in built- areas. the effects on children who witnsed the killings and violen wod be long-laing, thu.n. mission fod. it ao found th hamas rockts and mortar attacks which were inpable of being directed towards scificmilitary targets caused tearer the affected commities of southern israel. tonight, hamas responded the report saying thatalestinian rockets re fire in self-defense. israel did not cooperate with the u.n. investigatn. it's diissed judge goldstone's findings as one-sided whitewash >> theandate of t commison prejudges on any conclusion before annvestigation is even conducted. it alady pre-establies israel's ilt. reporter: judge goldstone commends that the u.n. secuty council calls on both israel and the gaza authority to investigate possible war crimes. if this esn't happen, he says, th situation gaza should be referr to the prosecuor of the internationalriminal court in the hague. >> itn'sonathan miller reporting there. e united nations report has been the talk today in israel and throughoutherab world which bringss to onight's "how they see i" muchf the arab press focused on the allegations against israel while downplaying the actionof hams. today's headline in the arab ne and english lauage newspaper basedin saudi aria reads "israel committed war crimes gaza." it isn't untilater in the article that it gets to the allegaons against hamas. in rael, the report was almt unersally condemned. this headline in haaretz, on of israel's largest newspapers summed up the feelings of many israe israelis. refeing to the reaction of shon peres. it read z "peres, u.n. gaza report makes mockery of history." the united nations rert, while accusing both israelnd hamas, singledut israe for particularly harshcriticism. the israeli government rused to coopera with the investation saying that the outcome was prejudged. joining us now for more on the israi government's pition is yosspeled,n the current nd a form general in t israeli army. welcome to "worldfocu" why won' israel iestigate at happened in gaa? >> israel investigated in many ways what happen in gaza. what we think about this report of this committee is the first time that hamasy the mandate of ts committee the first time that hamas getshe kind of legitimate organation by the mandate. secoly, in thisreport, nothing s been mepgsed about seven, eight yrs the south part of israel wasunder attack by hamas shellig, rockets. >> well, the report des single out both thesraeli government's actions a mas, but wanted to ask you very specifically aboutthe report accusing israel of -- and it said, diberately targeting civilians and using palestinis as human shields. how do you respondo that? >> i try to respond. and i will try to do agn. israel w attacked the last ven years. theivilians along the israeli boarr in the south rt was attaed by the hamas, the palestinians seven yers. israel tied to dohe best not to escalate t situation. but in 2006 weame into a tuation that wannot allow our citizens toontinue to li such uer attack when aroup like hamas is using iaeli moral limitation that w took o ouelf not to respond many years, they are ableto do atever they want. r example, the shelng on ou citizens cming out fr palestinian hools. ey did it because theywere sure that we would not respond. why they wer sure? because ourorallimitations. buthey push us to t rner, they ph us to the point that we have the right and e obgation to protect oselves. they act against civilns. cause they act against civilians, i'm sorry, there are also palestinian cilians hurt by us. we didn't have anothe choice. weave to protect ourself. that's an oligation of the authorities in israel through the citizens alo the border. >> what do you make ofhe findings of the report that israel has aeady said that theyelt that iwas prejudged? i mean, for our audience who doesn't understand wt prejudged ans, let's talk about that a little bi what do you mn by it being prejudge >> for exple, they should tell you at one of the member of this comttee is a british professor to iernational law. a few mohs ago, the professor, the british ofessor, this is one of the mbers of ts mmittee said israel has no right defend theelf. now, if somebodyike that with such an opinionabout israel is a member of this committ, what do you eect uso feel through such a committee? >> buto you also understand that by not investigating, that it possibly leaves the impression that isra has somethg to hide? >> israel hasothing to hide. israel has nothin to hide. i say it vry clearly. we try. weave tried ny yea not to respond. many years. an we pay a price for it. the price is leaveur citizens, our villages alone, the southern border under the attack of hamas. when we came to the point that we ha to rpond because we have the obligation to protect our vilians, our children, we have to act. and we act, as i said because the palestinians undersod our moral limitatn, th're attacking civili areas. that'she reason that palestinians have beenhurt. >> ssi peled,hank you very ch for joiningus on "worldfocus." thank you. want to know what you think about thecontrovers do you believe either israel, hamas or both committed war crim in last winter's war in gaza? tell us what you think by visiting the ow yo see it" section of our website at worldfocus.org. turning from theontroversy in israel to onein afghanistan, the ongoing uncertainty ov th country's presidentl election. today afghanfficials announced what they called the fal preliminary votecount. it would give president karzai nearly 55% of e vote enough fohim to win the ection outright overopposition candidate abdullah abdulla however, monitoring group i still considering what to do about widespread aegations of fraud and could invidate enough vos to force a runoff. clos to ho, another sign that life is in se wys changingnside cu. that country will now low christian inmates t attend organized prison services. previously inmates were only allowed to rship invidually. earlier a group lan american cathic bishops had asd that inmates be allowed to celebrate mass gether. in ussia, an effort to restore a moscow strain ation ha many people concerned that the project is also trying to store the imageof former dictator josef stalin. the rtoration work includes a returnf a quote praising stalinhich was remed back in the 1950s after his dth. millions of russia are believed tha been killed dung stalin's reign. scott ben of c australia's "lateline" progr reports is it history or heres >> reporr: busy commuters in kurskaya metro staon are being stopd in their tracks by a freshly painted name from the past. a me that still divides th nation. >>ranslator: he is a good person, a very nice pern. >> erybody knows stalin was not -- not gentleman. >> reporter: josef stalin was the oviet'seader for a quarteof acentury. this station was built durg his ule, and as part of the lash restorationf the 60-year-old buildinga line from the natiol anthem of the time has reappead in the enance hall after being removed about hlf aentury ago. "wwere raised stalin be loyal to the people," it reds "he inspir our worand heroic deeds." i think it must be here because it's our history. >> not for rusians, not for everyone in the world. >> reporter: tho who have rked on the poject say th restoration isn'meant to be politica >> it's paying tribute and showing respe to r refathers. that's it. >> reporter: human rits groups are concerned that the restation of stalin'sname at this metrstation feeds into a broader push to reinstate h age and helpsaper ov the pain inflicted by his regi on millions of russians. >> translator: thehing is history has beco a measure of litics in russia. >> reporter: the memorial organization says it's not the metro station's face-lt but these face thatreflect stalin's era victimof his terror campaigns. th human rights organization estimates 12 million were killed, imprisoned or actively pressed during stalin'srule. memorial has rsen to moscow mayordemanding the metro station inscription be removed immediately. >> translator: to me, itould be like installing hitler's nam in a metrostation. just outrageous and nsulting. >> rorter: the comparin between stalin and hitler was ma in july by the parliamentary sembly of the organizationor security and cooperation in europe the assembly passed a resoluti that coemned stalinism for its crim against humanity and equated itithnazi germany. that srked a backlash in moscow and added fuel to a historyebate that's been ging. president dmitry medvedev d already instituted a special commission to fight what h coiders the rewriti of history, particularly anything that downplays the soviet unios role in feating hitler'sorces. to many rsians, that's a high point in their cntry's past and remains rallying point, partularly for politiians. >>ranslator: we really must treat our history wh care, pecially in regard to those questions k4 the whole world h already given a eque cliskal answer. reporter: the moscow helsink group has a view of the monumental stalinist buiing from her he and car memories of what the soviet leader was like. >> doelieve is the bigges criminal in all times in all nions. >> reporr: even bigger than hitl? >> he may be comred. he m be compared. >> reporter: while t travelers take i the wrds -- >> i think it's history. >> reporter: -- otrs say it's stalin's acons that shoun't be forgotteno ensurhat happened tn never returns. scott beva "latine." to talabout this issue i a bit more detail we're pleased toe joined once again by nina khrushcheva, she's the granddaughter of nikita khrushchev. yo grandfathewas the one who first condemn josef stalin, yet 50 year on what do you mke of this continug rehabilitation of stalin? >> stalin made rsia great. he turned a peasant untry, as the legend goes, into a great industrial nation. and russians who were after '91, after the collapse of communism felt very much unappreated by everybodaround them. they felt that they wre the victimof history a all of a suen president puti came back and brought that greatne back to russia. and his predecessor was legedly josef stalin aboutp we love him for that toda >> right. and his so of enduring aeal for the arage russia woulde what? >> a i said, i men, it's all about e russian greatness. ssia is very big on its grandiose position in the world. it considers itself a serate civilizati civilizationrussians like to think of themselves this way they believe wit stalin and with puin tod, they were brought back -- theyow have the world position they rightly they belie, deserve. >>ust recently alsandr solzheniyn's work "t gulag aripelago" has become part of the hi school curriculum in russia. at do you thinkis bend that? >> i so think that this is part of thisreat aeal of ruia's great because his history books, foexampe, aise josef stin. yocan imagine the kids coming t of the new historybooks since 2006, the kids are coming out of th history lesson learning stalin was areat manager of the soet state in the '30snd '40s and '50s. they go intohe literature class where they read about the gulags and people perisheand proseced. so i believen some ways,it actually does not create ultimately doesn'treate a culture of greatss but of a spli personality disorder. cause you really have to decide who your leaders are, whether they were murde or heroes. >> wt does that tl usbout the mind-set of the politians and ho the united stateshould try to rlate to themin terms of resettg the reset button? >> e resetbutton, i mean, as alwaysealing wth russia, o one hand, on the otherhand, it's never a straight line. it never a linear approh becae i think the problem with th russians is that they rely haven't decided what theyare. in dostoevsky's words they haven't decide if they want beauty or progress. i think tt is aroblem in the russian approach to itself and also for the u.s. aders. soy suggestion is just to talk on ises, to deal with sepate issues rather than with a gre russia sort of cultural molith. rather than democracy, talk about democric developments in certain areas. >> all right, nina khrushcheva, thank you very mh. >> thank you. and now to our "signature segment," part two of oureries we call "preserving history." in moscow they maye debating what qualifies as hisry,ut in rom they are debating how much history may be too much. rome, of course, is a city defined by its antiquities. places like the coliseum and the forum. but world focus secial coespondent martin seemungal reports th the cost of maintaining it all h some romans worried i could end up breaking the bank. >> reporter: from one of t seven hills ofome, it's easy to see why it's called the eternal city. in the distance runs of ancient buildis, of paces of th caesars yum. and just around the bend in the tiber river st. peter's a billick ka. then there's thepantheon with its spectacular opulence. everywhere medieval chches and renaissanceuildings mix with modern architectu. the central part of rome today is oneig seum. it attracts millions of tourists a year. but the cost of preserving all this is astronomical. and maintenan, like the city, eternal. >> they want to finish the restorion or cleaning of one side of the monument, the alady have to start on the other sid continuous job. >> repter: it's angelo's job to make sure it gets done, but ask him ifhe's got the mey to do it. absolutely t, he says. we get some helprom the ate, but mo of the moyes from sellg tickets, and it's not engh, he says. touris do pay to t into the forum,s the center o the ancien roman empire, is a huge attraction. but st of the people who come here really do't know how lucky they are. because the buiings around here are rough 2500 years old, it's easy to thi that it's ways looked like th. well, it hasn't. it was only about 150 years ago that these buildgs were excavated. after the fall of t roman empire, the forum was forgotten and slowly buried as the ceuries passed a the city grew. archaeologists onlytarted stripping away the layers in the 19th century. a piece o rome past glory s finally revealed but this hiory professor thinks it's a miracle svived after it was unvered. >> we ca in'69. you could drive a car near the churchross the waext to the th and you could dve a car, the llid not exist then. the road continued throu here and then around the curve and some yearsater they realized this was probablynot wise forth with the cars dring through. reporter: the coliseum has survived thrgh the ages because it's just so enormous. hard to bury something li this even though huge chunk of it were carted off as buildi material in thbuilding ages. butany significant monuments didn't rvive. takehe story of roe's pymids. this one was built about years before the birth o christ, butfew people know the was another pyramid in rome andn even bigger one. and it was right about here. just down the road from the tican. it was destroyed in 1500 by pope alexander vi. it is says tha marble fm that pyrad is now theteps of st. peters. later popes banned the destruction of roman buildings. in rent years archaeologists have bn turning up some amazg finds. two yrs ago clemmen tooen a heteam unvered a spectacular sceptealmost certain she says from the 3rd century roman emperor. "it's usuay something we d't expe" she says. "i've be doing this for years and years, but every timee fi something, it's an incredible emotion." but not everythi gets to b seen byhe public beuse ther simply isn't enough ney to preserve and display a the things t archaeologists are finding. more tha once she's h to cover up her work. these were originally the apartments i the winter of the vestal virginsthemselves. reporter: russell scott an ameran history professor has been digging around in the foru for over 20 ars and is ju as frustrat. >> it's surpring what you may be able to find, but then t question is can anying beone to help preser it, to treat it? and the answ here is there's no money for it. >> reporter: coving thins up agn protects watever has been exposed from poution and the weather, but it means what you see here today is probably what yore going to getfor a lo time to come. physal reconstruction is just tooexpensive. but what about virtual reconstrucon? this is a sophisticated computer modelnd the experts say it's prettylose to what the city looked like at the height o the roman empire. me reborn 'salled and now available on google earth. so you d't just fly over the cosseum, you fly into it. >> our model includes many of the interrs of t great public buildings and certainly of the colosseum. and the chambers you s behind me. >> reporter:t is hoped that tools like at from the digital world will gerate interest and ultimately lead to more funding so that archaeologists c reveal and preserve me of the ancient wod. for "worldfocus," i martin seemungain rome. and that is "worlocus" for this wednesday evening. don't forget to ll us wha you thk by visitingur wbsite at worldfoc.org. i'm daljit dhalil in new york. from me and the rst of the orldfocus" team, have a good night. orldfocus" team, have a good night. good-bye. -- captions by vic -- www.tac.com "worldfocus" is de possib in part by the following funds -- major supporhas also been provided by the peteg. peterson foundion, dedicated to promoting fcal responsibility and addreing key economichallenges facing erica's future.