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against, but they were just potted plants. >> i mean, its not like they actually participated in the debate. no disrespect to the cpd maturity. >> and ultimately your audiences to television audience exactly. >> its really the only one that matters when youre in the hall, your perception of actually how it plays its really muted. all right, thank you very much to our panel. thanks to all of you for joining us on this incredibly consequential day. im kasie hunt. dont go anywhere. cnn ne...