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Grounds. it was more so that he pitched himself on "60 minutes" a week ago as someone who wanted to be a septemberricentrist independe. the president now is a supposed successful businessman. and the president before that was an absolute down the middle centrist. so what is shultz providing that is not -- thats different than what weve immediately had? again, i think thats why so many people pounced on him and said you have to be specific about what you would do that is radically different than ...

About what he said, because he had been, as a previous guest, as david said, he had been mayor of new york city. what harder job is there than that? he did it for three terms. the people like what had he did -- >> not all of us, but okay. >> even with all of his billions, he said, no, thanks. >> right. right. well, its going to be really interesting to see if someone like howard schultz can cut through or if this is the year that we really start paying attention to a third-party candidate. >> ye...

That at the very least suggests a comfort with virginias darker history of white supremacy, racial stereotyping and intimidation at this critical and defining moment in the history of virginia and this nation. we need leaders with the ability to unite and help us rise to the better angels of our nature. that was from the lieutenant governor today who said, the governor had personally reached out and apologized to him. the lieutenant governor also saying because he had ancestors who were enslaved...

White supremacy. he went on in the statement but did not call for his resignation. i want to go back to the press conference for a moment. it went on for a while. he said he was there to answer the questions, adamantly saying he was not in the photo after previously saying he was. i asked him why people should believe him. take a listen. >> im accepting responsibility that this photograph was on my page in the yearbook. i regret that. it is horrific. it made me sick when i saw it. but i will tel...

Not only of democrats, but of republicans should he choose to mention the national emergency at the state of the union. he may not. we dont know. he told us, stay tuned. so we will. >> the first state of the union with a new democratic congress. nancy pelosi is in charge. i wonder what that sort of tension will set up there. >> yeah, there is not going to be a lot of democrats standing and applauding. i can tell you that. >> you dont think? >> no. >> i know where you will be on tuesday night. gl...

Of syria is a mistake. what else do we know about his policies? >> here is the challenge for someone like shultz. and i think he would get traction if he got in the race if for no other reason he would have no problem coming up with the resources, s.e. nlt. >> thats right. >> i think he speaks for a lot of americans that maybe at one time were nominally left of center, are disenchanted with the perceived left ward swing of the party. here is the problem, s.e., is that the problems in america now...

Democrat or a republican? >> well, even with two candidates in 2016 that a lot of people werent too enthusiastic about, donald trump and hillary clinton, the third party candidates, the libertarians only got 3% and the greens only got 2%. i mean, even with those two candidates, hillary clinton and donald trump, where there was not a lot of enthusiasm and energy, that the other parties just couldnt get any traction. so thats just the reality, s.e.. >> and you ran? >> electoral college and ralph n...

For them to do that. by all accounts they have not talked to roger stone, they have not reached out to him before the arrest there does not seem to be an avenue for any kind of cooperation. roger stone says he has no plan to cooperate and hes going to fight. >> thank you very much. let me get s.e. cup and van jones in here with me. roger stone has been indicted for lying. do you believe anything hes saying in. >> roger stone is a performance artist. hes the cajun cunningham of politics. sometime...

>> theres an incredibly diverse field, more coming, how will you stand out in the crowd? first of all, im more moderate, which i dont think is a dirty word. theyre looking for people who how divided we are, so im running as a unifier restore a sense of moral aspiration for who we are as a people, and im focused on the future. i think the world is changing so fast, and i have a vision for what that future condition if we build it together. >> i have a list of questions here, but you just said som...

What else do we no about how this happened? >> s.e.,y great behind the scenes reporting from our colleagues that revealed that on thursday night, mvp mcconnell had the phone call with the president, sort of saying the gig is up. on thursday thats when the two votes took place. youll recall that the democratic plan tutly got more votes than the presidents plan. more rpgs had cro more republicans had crossed over. a clear signal to mitch mcconnell that the dam was about to break inside the republi...