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The elephant in the room out of the way. is hillary going to run? >> no. she will not. >> my follow-up to that is i think the first democrat to say thank you to the clintons, please be on your way. i think that first person would actually get a huge boost. would that be someone like kerstin gillibrand sort of dipped her toe in the water criticizing the clintons? >> you know, s.e., i dont know and i dont know if that boost will be as high as some would think it is. i mean, hillary clinton, yes, y...

Ago are not embarrassed to say them anymore. >> right. right. so how do you reform people with this kind of hate-filled in their hearts and minds? what do you do? >> you know, there are two things that haters love and thats silence and violence. if were silent, they grow, and if were violent against them, they use that as a victim narrative so what i do is i approach people with compassion and with cautious vulnerability and i can tell you that for me, 23 years ago, the most powerful transformat...

We explore in them is what actually drives happiness. >> well, the book is "them: why we hate each other and how to heal ". i would say its mandatory reading for folks, its terrific. thank you so much for joining me, senator ben sasse. >> thank you for the invite, s.e. coming up, are members of congress underpaid? my next guest will make the case for a pay hike on capitol hill and later in the show, two years into it, what the media gets right and wrong about the trump era. gentle means everyt...

At one time, christian held beliefs similar to those held by the man who attacked pittsburghs tree of life congregation. i asked him what infects someone with that kind of hatred. watch. >> you know, s.e., i really think that the radicalization of people happens from the day that theyre born. the ideology is really just the final permission slip, the drivers license, so to speak, for them to go out and finally be able to act out on their frustrations, their marginalization or whatever else is br...

Soeis over. please go away. >> i dont know if theres a necessity to say that, s.e. why would you want to say that and alienate? >> because i think a lot of democrats felt betrayed by the party who decided, who foisted hillary on them instead of listening to the electorates. i think that would go a long way to regaining some trust. >> i think the democrat thats going to emerge is someone whos going to be able to unite the party. >> and bring everybody together. i hear that. >> i dont think theres...

Was "help build the wall." so, this certainly could go on for some time now. s.e.? >> kristen, thanks for your reporting on this. i appreciate it. now for tonights other headline. its not a wonderful life for president trump. in fact, the past several weeks have been nothing short of a nightmare for him. theres the government shutdown thats sending hundreds of thousands of people home without pay just before the holidays. there have been multiple resignations at the highest levels of his cabin...

Ponying up u.s. tax dollars to pay for a wall. last night president trump tweeted a picture of the wall hes chosen. hes actually turned it into this fence, made of metal slats with spikes at the top. this picture, however, doesnt look like any of the eight prototypes congress set aside taxpayer money to have built. cnn reached out to the white house where the president got this rendering. we will let you know when we hear back. with us, democratic strategist and former clinton white house aid an...

Many breaking stories of the craziest week in washington, d.c., and well get to the rest. but first, for the very latest on the shutdown, let me bring in cnn national correspondent kristen holmes. kristen, lots of machinations today, behind-the-scenes stuff. whats the latest? what do you know? >> reporter: basically, s.e., we are in a huge mess right now. lawmakers went home, and not only did they go home without reopening the government, they went home without a plan to reopen the government wh...

Officials say about 1,000 flights were canceled or diverted during the 32-hour shutdown. officials say passengers should expect some delays and still some cancellations today as they continue to recover. sentenced to death, racing against the clock. was the trial fair and what story does the evidence tell? is the wrong person behind bars? the time for justice is running out. "death row stories," the complete third season airs tonight at 9:00 eastern here on cnn. that does it for me for now. im...

Heightened because mattis reassured everybody, they slept much better. >> yeah, sure. >> now its foreign policy by trump and theyre very, very concerned. >> david drucker, thanks for the insight. >> thanks a lot, s.e. president trump blind-sides americas allies and his own staff with his plan to leave syria. ill speak to two experts about the massive consequences after the break. ♪ theres no place like home ♪