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To get beyond iowa. i mean, trump is ahead in new hampshire, i believe hes ahead in south carolina. then have you to get right back here to nevada and then go on to the southern states, et cetera, where theyll start to slug it out. all im saying is even if donald trump won the iowa caucuses, which is, i still think very much a possibility, thats not going to mean very much either. you have to start winning a collection of these things or youre not going to make the grade. >> but, s.e., so whats ...

This one. >> s.e., this was a movie starring -- [ laughter ] what are you looking for on the stage? is it the cruz-trump showdown or is there another contender youre looking at? >> im actually going to be looking at the way marco rubio deals with ted cruz. i think tomorrow night is incredibly important for marco rubio because its a foreign policy debate. and he and cruz are having this very interesting argument about foreign policy right now. if marco rubio cant define ted cruzs foreign policy a...

Definitely take a whack at it. and god bless, poor jeb bush will try again. but i think that ted cruz has a little different approach and perhaps heats whats happening him. >> what do you think, s.e.? >> well, i think chris christie will be the more vocal opponent of donald trump tomorrow night. i think hes going to differentiate himself on a number of different issues and probably be the more aggressive swinger. maybe rand paul as well. but, yeah i mean, ted cruz has said his strategy is to bea...

Him or trying to be pale imitations, democrats will want to lump them altogeer. and they have given us fodder. this is a great challenge in a primary, you want to rev up your voters and theyre doing a great job of that but risk alienating people in the middle. >> paul, s.e., kevin, thanks so much for joining us. in case we havent mentioned we are just one day away from the next republican presidential debate, the final one of 2015. you can see that right here on cnn tomorrow night at 8:30 p.m. e...

Party to pass this commander in test. >> for at least two candidates, you can track real change as a result. i think of those two events. i think for ben carson, it became very clear that if this election were going to be focused primarily on foreign policy he was not the right person for the time so you have seen him dip in the polls and chris christie rise at least in gaining that union leader endorsement talking a lot about foreign policy and terrorism and having been tested as a governor of ...

Director david calian and cnn political commentator and columnist s.e. cupp. before the humans on the stage, nine of them in the prime time debate, talk about the setting here. the geopolitical setting. i think the most important thing thats happened is paris. is san bernardino. as a backdrop, that i think will drive this debate. >> without a doubt. think back, john. the debates that were driving the republican nomination process before the terrorist attack, the immigration debates, economic deb...

For six months. for much of the country taking their first look. >> absolutely. >> and for cruz, the timing is perfect. hes ascending right at a time people are tuning in but its important tuesday night because theyll be tuning in and getting their first review of ted cruz. he has to do well. i think its also a big night for ben carson who is really descending and i think unless he can stabilize, frankly it will be over for him soon. >> ben carson has admitted foreign policy is not his strong su...

Your honor. >> the key is i would rather lose without him than with him. donald trump is speaking and we will listen in. bottom line, i would rather lose with him than try to win with him. what do you say? >> unlike donald trump, i never voted for hillary clinton or barack obama. my vote on this is not really a relevant factor at this point. the bottom line is, trump will hand this nomination to hillary clinton. alienation and division hes causing across the country, hes going to have a fervent ...

When we went after the p.o.w.s, time and time again you have heard voices in the republican party rise up. the problem is it doesnt do any good. it almost helps him. you see his numbers rise. so you almost have to look at it strategically should we rise against him. >> let me show you what the problem is according to republican officials, and we should point out hes gaining support -- these arent chickens that are saying they want to support him in the election. its voters. its republican voters...

What do you mean by that? >> well if they dont treat me with a certain amount of decorum and respect, if they dont treat me as the front-runner, by far, the front-runner, if the playing field is not level, then certainly, all options are open. but thats nothing i want to do >> how will you know that? what determines that? >> i think i will knee over a period of a number of months. we will go through the primaries, see what happens and i will make a determination, but i would imagine they would t...