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>> im probably getting bad e-mails and its what i think. and the steelers, i dont know if you can count this as a win because ben wasnt there and the team looks like a mash unit. >> and eight turnovers, and charlie batch, 37-year-old quarterback was in the browns beat the steelers in cleveland and like you said, some steelers fans say you didnt beat us, theres an asterisk on that one and they need to get well and they play the ravens next week and lose another 6-6 and thats not a playoff record....