you said, well, there was no criminality. but i mean, all of this stuff is very dangerous stuff. when you re talking about no criminality, i think it s very dangerous for you to say that. what do you think he s saying there? it s dangerous. dangerous why? well, he was threatening the secretary of state. the secretary of state testified to our committee that he did feel that this was a threat to him. at some point he said, you could be in criminal trouble if you don t do what the ex-president wanted. so it s an effort to get the secretary of state over, you know to make up votes that didn t exist. and luckily, he understood that his job was to deliver the votes that were actually cast, not fake votes. what s interesting to me that is the conventional wisdom on the jack smith probes is still that mar-a-lago is open and shut, bill barr, you can t get
and when he said, this is not tough enough or strong enough. now he s really hyped in expectation for korea deal. bobby, to that point, we had a deal that the whole world got together and denuclearize iran. donald trump unilaterally pulls out of that deal. what credibility then does he have even to make the demand for denuclearization in the first place with north korea? it gives iran an additional talking point it gives the north koreans an additional talking point at the discussions if they ever do take place. this whole process has been backwards. you start talking about a deal with north korea, you say here are the carrots, here s what you have to give in exchange. denuclearization in exchange for a basket of economic goodies, then you say if you do that, then we will send the secretary of state over, we ll have a further conversation, we ll