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This neednt have come to this place. i will say two years ago there were lots of groups in the fight that were secular is not the right word, but that were liberal, should we say, and that were not linked to al qaeda. but those groups were essentially pushed out of the night. al qaeda-connected groups were the only ones getting active outside help at the time and they took to -- they also, of course, many of them are experienced fighters from other conflicts so they were taking the sort of forwa...

Yes, there are differences between assad and the secular -- >> lets just be clear. that path we attempt to shorten. >> fair enough. but fact we are on now is a long bloody -- >> leila, is that what you see? >> i see a third path which is a political process. and we have not tried hard enough to try to secure a political agreement. and i think, instead, what happened after the geneva communiscation issued and with the arab league and there has to be a transmission in the middle of 2012, we instea...

And more liberal secular ones. and frankly, we need to do a better job of seeing that, whats happening. it is not chaos. this is a very real power struggle and figure out how can we help those moderates. we are less dependent on energy from the middle east. the chinese economy will depend on that oil from the middle east and so does europe. i want, i wish we could walk away from the region but we cant for economic reasons. >> as we all know, oil, energy, it is a global resource. so price differe...

Following a similar path to that of some insurgents in the north caucasus who want focussed on achieving secular for homeland and ended up intertwined in international gee aujihadist ne, number one enemy, america. how has this changed, viewing the nationalist movement in the that part of the world? >> sure. really supplementing things that evan said. heretofore, myself and the working terrorism issues, chechen sojourner es have been involved in a lot of different fronts. whether bosnia, afghanis...

Truly believed in. as you pointed out, actually, the family came here over a decade ago under asylum. they came later. because of immigration laws, if a family member already is here under asylum, the rest of the family members are entitled to automatically come here under asylum as well. they had been secular, but they talked about becoming more religious in some of their facebook postings, and then they talked about becoming muslim, muslim only, and theres one film that talks about establishin...

>> rafael joins us. a couple questions for you. here in the united states we know that it is the supreme court the law that is catching up to society, the government catching up to what people want, how does it work in south america? whos actually leading the charge? >> the reality is that latin america is becoming more and more secular. you saw it in argentina, now its happening in uruguay and then these protests in chile asking for gay rights that would have been unthinkable ten years ago. so ...

Believe that if you cite scripture somehow you are written out of argument and you are somehow in a way that is against the constitution introducing religion into politics, there is no prohibition about opposing policy x for whatever reason. it could be religious or secular. >> absolutely. you have every right. if you want to expand your constituenciy. >> bill: thats right you want to win the argument, the majority. >> you have to go outside the narrow bounds of your own religion. thats always b...

Thumping comment. thats fine. if you want to be angry at me. people angry at me about a lot of stuff. what i said was not inaccurate or insulting on any level. it was descriptive. go. >> yes. and i agree with you on that. i want to make this point. the week before with our segment why were talking about gay marriage. there was no controversy. and you made the same comment except without the bible thumper phrase. you were saying, look, the secular -- if you are going to oppose gay marriage in lar...

Thumping comment. thats fine. if you want to be angry at me. people angry at me about a lot of stuff. what i said was not inaccurate or insulting on any level. it was descriptive. go. >> yes. and i agree with you on that. i want to make this point. the week before with our segment why were talking about gay marriage. there was no controversy. and you made the same comment except without the bible thumper phrase. you were saying, look, the secular -- if you are going to oppose gay marriage in lar...

Against abortion or against homosexual marriage because i believe in the bible. that, i respect completely. and i dont argue. however, if you want to persuade people who are not of your faith. you have to go beyond that or you will not succeed. and since we are not a majority country where everybody has the same interpretation of the bible, i think you have to make a case that goes beyond it its not that i have no respect for it. or that some liberals, i believe that if you cite scripture someho...