made that point. but the legislation in congress, he specifically is saying, unfortunately, congress intervened. it was unwise and unwarranted. take us back to when congress did this. how long ago? there have been a series ofs cascading measures to block the closure. in fact, someone called the attorney general on this. there was a period when he could have moved him to new york for trial. in fact, he showed us today in a surprise grand jury indictment that had enabled a federal prosecution in december 2009. but they withdrew it today. what happened was, first he said there were objections on security accounts, or there were objections on venue accounts or concern that manhattan couldn t handle it and there was a series of cascading concerns and oppositions by both the political camp and some strong advocates of military trials. so at the beginning, in fact, brooke, you re right. there wasn t legislation that
bill: you would agree you got to start somewhere and if you don t start there, where do you start? you start with across the board cuts like you re talking about, but again, earmarks are not additional spending. they come from the existing budget. so i would certainly support limiting the payout for each of those discretionary accounts, outside of the security accounts, but whether or not earmarks are a part of that does not affect the overall cost at all. okay. jason altmire, thank you for coming in. by the way, do you support nancy pelosi? i voted against her. no, i voted against her, and when it comes to the floor in january, i will vote against her again. bill: jason altmire, thank you for your time, democrat out of pennsylvania, thank you. martha: he s sort of out on a limon a number of things. very interesting. and here, what is it, tuesday, thursday, thanksgiving, we re on the brink of the busiest travel day of the year. we re going to talk to somebody who works for one of
this tells you how far the culture has changed. we got $2.1 trillion to $2.4 trillion in spending cuts. the president started asking for a blank check, then a big increase, he got none of though, and we kept our pledge, which is we will cut more spending we will raise the debt limit by. that pledge was maintained. the president will get just shy of a trillion dollars 900. sean: $900 billion in the debt ceiling. these cuts take place over a 10-year period of time. that s right. sean: how much are we getting the first year and how much are we getting the second year? how much is in defense? and how do we hold future congresses accountable to what you re doing today? right, that s a good question. $21 billion right away for the first fiscal year. then it s about 46, i think, for the second fiscal year. then $9 billion from what we call the security accounts. that s not just defense. that s all security.