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November 20, 2019
There is talk about a drug cocktail or something. nobody ever said that to me. by phone, text, or email. i dont remember anybody sounding any alarm bell because of course had somebody mentioned it i would have sat up and taken notice. everyones hair was unfired but nobody decided to talk to us. >> when you talk in your statement about in the absence of any credible explanation for the suspension of a dilator came to believe it was your guess that the presumption of security aid would not occur u...
November 20, 2019
Department knew the important details of our efforts. the suggestion that we were engaged in some irregular or rogue diplomacy is absolutely false. i have now identified certain state department emails and messages that provide contemporaneous support for my view. these emails show that the leadership of the state department, the national security council, and the white house were all informed about the ukraine efforts from may 23, 2019, until the security aid was released on september 11th, 201...
November 20, 2019
Previously, mr. giulianis requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a white house visit for president zelensky. mr. giuliani demanded that ukraine make a public statement announcing the investigations of the 2016 election dnc server and burisma. mr. giuliani was expressing the desires of the president of the united states and we knew these investigations were important to the president. fifth, in july and august of 2019, we learned that the white house had also suspended security aid to ukraine...
November 20, 2019
Publicly and with confidence on those issues of importance to potus and the u.s. hopefully that will help break the log jam. the secretary replied yes. i followed up the next day asking to get 10 to 15 minutes on the warsaw schedule for this. i said we would like to know when it is locked so that i can tell zelensky and brief him. executive secretary kenna replied i will try for sure. more over, given my concerns about the security aid, i have no reason to dispute that portion of senator johnson...
November 20, 2019
The white house. that historic example set during the nixon presidency. from what ive been able to glean i dont think thats going to happen. but obviously what happens today could -- has the potential to be a game changer. >> lawmakers are taking their seats there as we await. the beginning of this hearing this morning. a lengthy statement from gordon sondland. youve been able to dig through the pages. was there a quid pro quo? he goes on to answer that question in his opening statement. >> righ...
November 20, 2019
The aid was suspended. but i never received a clearance. still havent to this day. in the absence of any credible explanation for the suspension of aid, i later came to believe that the resumption of security aid would not occur until there was a public statement from ukraine committing to the investigations of the 2016 elections and burisma as mr. giuliani had demanded. i shared concerns of the potential quid pro quo regarding the security aid with senator ron johnson. and i also shared my conc...
November 20, 2019
Believed that the resumption of u.s. aid would likely not occur until ukraine took some kind of action on the public statement that we had been discussing for many weeks. as my other state department colleagues have testified, this security aid was critical to ukraines defense and should not have been delayed. i expressed this view to many during this period but my goal at the time was to do what was necessary to get the aid released, to break the log jam. i believe that the public statement we ...
November 20, 2019
Hearing room but it sounds accurate. >> appreciate that. ambassador, you are aware of no connection between the pause in aid in exchange for any kind of investigation, is that correct? >> i missed a keyword. >> youre not aware of any connection between depositing aid and exchange for some kind of investigation being announced or done by ukraine, is that right. youre not aware of secretary pompeo having any knowledge, direct knowledge of the connection between investigations and security aid. >> ...
November 20, 2019
President zelensky. mr. giuliani demanded that ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election, dnc server, and burisma. mr. giuliani was expressing the desires of the president of the united states and we knew that these investigations were important to the president. later, you testified, i tried diligently to ask why the aide was suspended but i never received a clear answer. in the absence of any credible explanation for this suspension of aid, i later came to ...
November 20, 2019
White house was withholding security aid to ukraine during conversations with ambassador taylor on july 18th, 2019. however, as i testified before, i was never able to obtain a clearance regarding the specific reason for the hold, whether it was bureaucratic that in nature, which often happens or indicated concern in the interagency process. i never participated in any of the subsequent dod or dos review meetings that others have described so i cant speak to what was discussed in those meetings....