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This really is a precedent-setting trial. garrett? >> very interesting stuff. matt bradley in kharkiv. matt, thank you. mike, we know the president today had a 37-minute call with the leaders of finland and with sweden. what are we learning about that conversation and the u.s. attitude towards those two countries potentially joining nato? >> yeah, this is such an interesting conversation to learn that the president had today, garrett. because there has been a debate during this crisis in ukraine...