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Trump campaign included with russians to help him win the election. everything we are talking about here is post election. so what you have to assume, and it is a big assumption in my mind is that there was some quid pro quo that happened before the election that resulted in after the election. as far as we see we have no evidence of that. >> ill just say that the reason bob mueller was appointed special investigator was to determine whether there was an obstruction of justice. whether donald tr...

Tell if were starting to get paranoid or it is justified. and then it seems like the paranoia is the part of the interference. >> the russians dont even have done anything to keep the paranoia going. 2018, were of course going to wonder when the elections come out if the numbers are real. there will be a real fear that your vote doesnt come out. >> not only fear about that. the times article highlighted, systems break down all the time. ive worked around elections for most of my adult life. and ...

>> not that theres anything wrong with bulgaria, but they may outsource to it a bulgarian firm. you dont know. >> part of what is so frustrating about this entire, through the looking glass moment, it seems like i cant tell if were starting to get paranoid or it is justified. and then it seems like the paranoia is the part of the interference. >> the russians dont even have done anything to keep the paranoia going. 2018, were of course going to wonder when the elections come out if the numbers a...

Hes ready to roll? >> you know, i dont want to overestimate putins ability to psychologically manipulate somebody. he thinks highly of this ability. its quite basic. bringing a dog to a meeting is pretty crude tactics. i expect he will certainly try to sort of demonstrate his dominance to trump. i think hes going to lord the russian meddling issue over trump because in this situation basical basically putin has the upper hand. trump does not want the russian meddling in elections to be mentioned...

He apologized and maybe he should pick up those coins. evidently he faces a hefty fine. >> shannon: well, a proposal from texas senator ted cruz could breathe new life into republican efforts to reform healthcare. heres the idea. allow health insurers to sell plans up to the obamacare regulations to also sell cheaper less comprehensive plans at the same time. its an idea thats getting traction among conservatives. joining me to talk about it, deputy editor for "the wall street journal." good to ...

Martha: boy, woke up this morning looking forward to tonight because this will be very interesting. were now 12 hours away from the third and final presidential debate. this is their last shot at each other you could say. just 15 days from the election it could be a game-changer. denver certainly was. nobody knows what will happen there tonight. we start a brand new hour in "americas newsroom." im martha maccallum. bill: im bill hemmer. good morning at home. hope you had a great weekend because ...

Broad based health care clinic, something modeled along the lines of the mayo clinic or the cleveland clinic or kaiser permanente will end up being the winning model of care provision. thats not certain obviously at this stage. well wait and see what emerges. >> so, robert, you dont think were in unprecedented territory here? you think that will serve as a model? >> oh, i think there are some good models out there and that the stage is now set for people to get the coverage that they couldnt get...

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They may not walk in again. i think you have to look at what you sell to see is it a return type of product, or service anyway, that people are going to -- where youre introducing yourself to them and theyre going, wow, this was great, im going to come back on my own. >> thats actually quite a good point. there are some businesses that are just not cut out for groupon. if youre in a, you know, one-time transactional business. for instance, what we saw on video, you know, laser hair removal treat...