Culture warriors as what you would call the trump-ians. david. call me passe, i m very passe. still in the republican party, but still trying to find a place to land, because it is not with trumpism. one thing that we ve seen, especially since the january 6th insurrection, is that republican state parties especially are drilling down into local races, they re drilling down into operations as far as election workers. i ve heard things like steve bannon has targeted the top 20 clerks in the five states in which president trump lost to actually get them elected into positions. can you talk about the need for democrats to match this and to really, instead of talking a lot of times at 20,000 feet, to get down into the trenches to keep us a democracy? even mainstream republicans.
We now live in this world where, as you say, people have basically completely distorted the history and i ask you as we go forward, whether you have the fear that i have, which is that the 1/6 commission is going to have the same thing happen to it. the trump people are going to run out the clock, we re not going to get to a conclusive answer at the end of next year, republicans take control of the house, the committee ends and we then live in a twilight zone going forward where 1/6 has the same thing done to it that trump s relationship with russia has done to it, which is it s filtered through a partisan lens and we can t see the forest for the trees because this committee has not moved fast enough. there s another thing that will happen with 1/6 and i ve been warning about this a lot, it will go looking for crimes. that s not what you need to know. if i could make one reform to the mainstream media, stop booking former federal prosecutors to talk about these issues. they put it in
Republicans and there were business people that tried since the early 1970s to get government off of their backs. but it is so funny that most of these people, the chamber, these pro business lobbying groups, they weren t such libertarians when, you know, people like me would try to vote down the sugar subsidy, or i remember just catching absolute hell when i tried to end loyalty relief, so big oil wouldn t get federal subsidies for doing what they do anyway. and drill. and you can they can go down the list. they always they would always grade you well if you voted against welfare benefits for poor single moms, but you would always get punished by the same supposedly libertarian pro business community if you were against if you voted against
Saying in addition to talking about his own political future. but, what was extraordinary to me in talking to trump is that trump is as bitter towards mccarthy as he is towards mitch mcconnell. you know what he s saying about mitch mcconnell. so what happens to kevin mccarthy if republicans win back the house? does donald trump do something to try to sink his chance of getting the speakership? and wouldn t that be quite a turn to mccarthy? mccarthy knows what the truth is, absolutely. and he stood by trump. he didn t challenge him. he defied his own principles such as they are, and, you know, and now he s rewarded with this from donald trump. so i think that s going to be a very interesting dynamic to play. one other thing about mccarthy is trump condemned all these republicans during the course of my interview, pence, mccarthy,
America: a recent history. as all this week we take a look at how we got to where we are economically as a nation. and also professor of history, walter isaacson, an associate professor of political science at fordham university, christina greer joins us. great to have you all on board. great to have you guys here with us. curt, this is we love doing this, obviously. you and i don t agree on everything but i love watching former republicans still love to watch when democrats fight and that s perfect, we have to get him back tomorrow, but just like the differences, obviously, where democrats are economically, that reagan quote reminded me of when i went to the house as this libertarian/conservative/ populist, one of the things that irritated me so much was that, yes, you are right, there were