the taliban without a shot being fired. bret? bret: jennifer griffin life at the pentagon. jennifer, thank you. again, more with the panel and senator fisher in a bit. border up flux of 15,000 immigrants currently planning to head north through mexico. their path would send them through tapachula which is already overwhelmed with migrants. correspondent griff jenkins is in southern mexico again tonight. this is like a dream, let s see a dream. griff: for many migrants a feeling of betrayal. joseph is one of the 0,000 haitians stuck in tapachula who thought he would be welcomed to the united states. biden has promised we can go over there and also have the opportunity, you know, to start over. so now, we re going to the state and we get deported to haiti, not to chile, not to colombia, not to mexico, it s to haiti. this is the worse situation.
let s bring in nebraska republican senator deb fischer of the senate armed services committee to discuss today s hearing as well as what we just heard from chad. senator, thank you for joining us. thank you, bret. bret: i want to play this soundbite what the president told george stephanopoulos and what you heard today about the troop recommendations. take a look. your military advisers did not tell you no we should just keep 2500 troops. no. no one said that to me that i can recall. is that true? i know the president to be an honest and forthright man. was that a false statement to the american people. i m not going to categorize the statement of the united states. you do not have a duty to cover for the president when he is not telling a the truth. was that false statement or not. i have give given you my opinion on the matter and my judgment on it. senator, both of those generals the chairman of the joint chiefs and general mackenzie said they recommended 2500
would not have been. i would note it wasn t so much a collapse of the afghan military as collapse of the afghan government writ large. those two things happened together and they were completely linked together. when you consider one, i think you have to think about the other. additionally in retrospect, one of the areas of debate has been whether we should have startled our evacuation earlier. and i recognize that the government asked us not to start our evacuation early. can you speak to what you now know and whether it would have been smarter and more effective if we started to evacuate personnel a year in advance or six months in advance or any time in advance? could i ask the senator to i apologize. i didn t realize my time was expired. i m submit that for the record. senator fisher, please. thank you, mr. chairman. i, too, would like to thank our military men and women for their dedication to this country, for
approaches to kabul get into the winter under the control of the government of afghanistan. a lot of the outlying provinces would not have been. it wasn t so much the collapse of the afghan military but the collapse of the afghan government as large. they happened together and they were mreeftly linked together. when you consider one i think you have to think about the other. additionally in retrospect one of the areas of debate has been whether we should have started our evacuation earlier. and i recognize that the kabul government asked us not to start our evacuation early. can you speak to what you now know and whether it would have been smarter or more effective if we had started evacuating personnel a year or six months or any time in advance? could i ask the senator? i didn t realize my time was expired. i ll submit that for the record. thank you very much. senator fisher, please. thank you, mr. chairman i would like to thank our military men and women for
and look at what is still available? what programs worked? that s the difference you are seeing between the two parties here right now. bret: last thing quickly, senator. senator bernie sanders has said to house members on the progressive side that if they vote on this bipartisan infrastructure bill thursday, that they are losing all leverage and he is saying don t vote on that first. you need to get the big $3.5 trillion plan. where do you sense this is right now as we go minute to minute up there on the hill? yeah, you know, it is minute to minute. we don t know where the democrats are on this. they are going to have to figure that out themselves. but, the change horses in midstream is maybe maybe it s not unusual in washington. but when you are told one thing and then you see leadership with nancy pelosi in the house trying to maneuver that fine line between her moderates and the progressive wing of the party, you know, we are just i m just going to sit back and