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That is different. >> barbara and joyce, ill try to get you in here in the last couple minutes that we have. im wondering how much does public opinion play in all of this in this legal sphere? and i bring that unbecause there a new "washington post" poll that shows the partisan dividei. 82% of democrats say he should be impeached and removed whereas republican, 82% say he shouldnt be impeach and removed from office. how much should public opinion play in the legal sphere and the impeachment sphe...

Here is what happened during clinton and they got all these rights and therefore we have to keep doing that. two things. one, they didnt as you said, they did not have the process that is currently laid out by house democrats. what is really happening here is impeachment is a process where the constitution leaves the rules too the house arul rules to the house and senate. house on the investigation and determining whether to vote, and senate on the trial and whether or not to acquit or convict. ...

Think, of where this thing needs to go and how to get there sooner than donald trump, who is his own war room, his own counsel, et cetera. >> his own everything. >> but even more -- yes, you know, he is his everything. but more so than even those closer to it, like members of her own caucus. shes got her finger on a different pulse, and that pulse is measuring up the president and realizing exactly what his strength and weaknesses are relative to the facts and the information that she knows is t...

Facts, the house committees have had to step into that role. the prooemt proce prooech prooemt proce impeachment proceedings will come in the weeks ahead when they take a vote on articles of prooem impeachment. so this should help the country understand how fair democrats are being. i think that that is important for the country to pull together as this process goes forward. >> and that is a good point. barbara, what is your view on this? >> i think that although as mya says the house has no req...

>> and i asked you to talk about who lieutenant colonel vindmant me that there were people on television, whether television hosts or republicans, going out there and raising questions about the credibility of vindman. i recall someone even questioning his loyalty to the united states. how damning and damaging is that to this entire process that were going through? >> well, i found to be absolutely outrageous. and weve had a history of this before in our country. where we used hiyphenated adject...

These two stories not think that the president is trying to tamper with the jury? >> well, first of all, jonathan, everything about this situation is unusual to your earlier point. secondly -- excuse me. this is inherently a political process. >> right. >> and so, i dont -- you could think of it as jury tampering. i dont, actually. i think of it as more the way politics works. but the senate is fundamentally different from the house. and you know, what the house messaging that you were talking a...

Attorney attend closed door testimony which was not available to the public. that was actually close to the public. and so then the questioning could be more focused on evidence. >> joyce and barbara, joi joyce start but, are you curbed about the circus-like atmosphere where these hearings will be televised unlike the nikts xon hearings? those hearings were done behind closed doors and these will be done live on television. >> i think mya makes a fair point, when hasnt this administration stoope...

>> i think it is a problem. back in 1998, you had 31 democrats who voted for the impeachment inquiry. the proceedings at that time. so it reinforces we are in such a partisan and polarized time in our politics right now. under any normal circumstances, republicans would join, and lord knows, if president hillary clinton were in office, with this kind of behavior, you can imagine how republicans would be reacting to her conduct of foreign policy if it were like donald trump. especially with her, ...

Its unfair, i meechb than this process that is specifically authorized under the constitution. impeachment is spelled out very clearly in the constitution. how the democrats are going about leading this process is very similar to what the republicans did in 1998, with regard to bill clinton. this is not an unusual or unprecedented process. the facts are obviously very different, and you know, what remains very curious is that you dont see very many republicans defending the actual behavior of th...

About this. >> his own tax cut didnt get bipartisan support, were not in that world right now, matt. >> let me be clear here. i think it is awfully important, when it comes to impeaching a president, because even with those 300, over 360 votes on clinton, having tons of democrats, agree that president clinton should be impeached, the republicans still paid a price, when it looks ike youre partisan with impeachment, i think the voters dont like that, and i think what is hard for pelosi here is th...