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unleashed wind gusts of more than 70 miles per hour. hundreds of thousands of residents from georgia to the carolinas are without power tonight. tornado advisories are still in effect tonight as hurricane dorian already spawned several tornadoes in the carolinas that leveled some communities and more could be coming overnight. in the bahamas, the death toll is rising with at least 30 people losing their lives, but that number is expected to rise dramatically. hundreds of people remain unaccounted for as rescuers desperately search for survivors. one bahamian official says the public needs to prepare for unimaginable information. let's get going with nbc news meteorologist bill karins for the latest on hurricane dorian's path. thank you so much for being with us. what are we looking at right now? we're watching the eye slowly moving loosening and parallel to the north carolina coast. we're going to watch the eye really being on land for the first time ever since it left grand bahama island. it skirted all of the florida, georgia, south carolina and north carolina up to this point. here's the eye right here. this is wilmington right there. it's about 35 miles southeast of wilmington. wilmington has a 100-mile-per-hour hurricane, only 35 miles away. they're getting a lot of rain, they had wind gusts up to 60, 65, but haven't had high winds. we just got the new update in here. now we're at a category 1. it continues to show signs of weakening. that's fantastic. the lower the winds, the less power outages. that's the bottom line. now it's moved to 15. we're moving it a little faster. here's the forecast path from the hurricane center. they have it down to 90. probably be lucky at this point to maintain 90 miles per hour as it it's raking its way. the current winds, inland areas, still very windy. the rain has stopped in many areas like myrtle beach to georgetown. still tropical storm gusts. that's why they're telling people to stay home. they have to clean up blanches that came down. morehead city starting to pick up. we showed you the potential of tornadoes. one tornado warning north of the sound areas. you can see the bands continue to spiral in here. these tornado watches go until 7:00 a.m. in the morning. now let's track the eye for you. we're getting close enough that we can do this. here is morehead city. this is where the cedar island ferry drives out to oak coke island. as we track the distance here, because this is -- there we go. let's do this again. this is the beach area. that's the northern eye. we got 31 miles from atlantic beach down to that northern eye. this is where the highest winds would be, and this is what we'll be watching to see if that moves on shore. the center of the storm is located down here. that's right in this area here. and so we're going to have to wait and see exactly what distance or how that plays itself up. this path may be along the coast. we're not sure we'll get official lachkd ondfall or not,. we'll be watching that in the next two hours as we go along. 3:00 a.m. is when we estimate we get the eye moving on shore. >> we've been talking about it all week. how much longer will we be talking about it? >> this storm will be moving past hatteras by 10:00, 11:00 p.m. the backside will take another two hours. by 1:00 p.m. it will be gone from north carolina. later this hour we have tropical storm warnings in cape cod, and our friends in nova scotia have the possibility of getting hit by this as a hurricane saturday. i'll explain that and what that means coming up a little later. >> bill karins, thank you very much for that. for the latest on the storm's impact right now, let's go to wilmington, north carolina, a state where the governor said it is a long night ahead. nbc correspondent cal perry is there. cal, what are you seeing? >> we're getting rain at about one inch per hour. the flooding is what shorts here are worried about. we had hurricane florence just about a year ago, almost to the day, a year ago next week. that really did flood the city, and it cut the city off for four days. authorities are a little bit concerned that maybe some folks stayed behind who would have otherwise left. the concern being they wouldn't be able to get back to their homes. that said, authorities are prepared. they have staged just outside of town some 1,500 electrical trucks ready to come in. as soon as the winds die down, they're at 53 miles an hour at the airport. locally where we are it's gotten loose worse in just the past 30 minutes. you have the big picture of the storm and then as you get to these neighborhoods, things really shift around. it will be interesting to see tomorrow whether or not the water has receded. we are looking at high tide in 25 minutes. it is a city that will flood. the question is, how long will that water stay? chris? >> cal perry, thank you for that. appreciate it. we're closely tracking dorian's path to see if it could make landfall as it creeps toward the outer banks of north carolina. joining us near bucks turnis david gura, and host of "up with david gura." what's it like out there. >> reporter: chris, we have migrated from buxton. here it is 1:29 a.m. local time. the atlantic ocean right behind me. we're watching to see what happens with the sea surge. when that happens. the rain picked up and the winds picked up as well. cal mentioned a moment ago the efforts of the governor of this state, roy cooper, ahead of this storm to get people to take advantage it seriously and leave these outlying areas. i must say the city itself, the town itself, it was pretty empty today as i made my way down highway 12. not very populated as well. people coming north, very few people coming south. so i think a success by that metric is people took this seriously and got out of town. we are in derrick county a long stretch of territory here in north carolina. there's been a curfew in effect in this county since 8:00 p.m. local time. the streets are pretty empty again. we're waiting for what cal has been experiencing in wilmington over the last few hours as the winds pick up and the rain picks up as well, chris. >> we move back down the caroline coast. earlier today nearly 3,000 customers lost power there. joining me by phone is sharon russell, deputy county manager for on slough county. what's your biggest concern where you are right now? >> at this time the conditions in our area are beginning to deteriorate. we are starting to see hurricane-force winds in our county. we are also closely monitoring a rain gages to see if we are approaching flood stage. >> how do you feel -- how well prepared do you feel you are? and have people been heeding the curfew? >> so far we have had great compliance with the occur fucur place. we had significant damage last year from florence. it's been less than a year since our community suffered greatly from florence. so this year when we started warning folks, i think that people really listened and have heeded our warnings. >> where are you right now, sharon? what's the last you saw and felt outside? >> i'm actually at the emergency operations center. we are here with two different shifts of emergency response employees. we're taking shifts. we have folks that are sleeping, folks that are working around the clock. periodically we do go outside, a breath of fresh air. i was just outside probably an hour ago looking at the conditions as these winds started to. >> up have you been getting any 911 calls? have you been getting questions about power outages? what are you hearing from the people who are still there? >> so we are beginning to see the 911 calls increase. one of our concerns with the 911 calls is we are beginning now to very carefully triage those calls because we're getting wind gusts that are coming up into 42 to 44 miles per hour. at 45 miles per hour we no longer allow our emergency crews to go out on those calls as far as our paramedics because we want to prevent having our employees injured or killed. so we are very carefully monitoring those calls and monitoring the wind speeds. we actually have a number that our citizens call when they have nonemergency questions. we continue to receive calls there about the power outages, about the shelters, and about various things to do with the storm. we are telling people now, of course, to shelter in place. >> at the most recent briefing later last night, we're in the morning hours now here on the east coast, i know concerns were expressed about the county running low on fuel. how big a concern is that for you right now? >> we are feeling confident right now. we did learn during florence -- we were cut off from the outside world for two to three days with florence due to major flooding. so this time we prepared in advance. we have a contract ready and we actually had fuel tankers that came into the county. we do have fuel positioned at this time. we want to make sure that our law enforcement and emergency responders have fuel available. we are also in close contact with our gas stations, all of our business partners, so that we can let the public know as soon as those gas stations, restaurants, and other outlets are able to open after the storm passes. >> and i read -- i think it was on one of the local newspaper sites about a tornado sighting more maybe more there. what can you tell us about concerns you have about tornadoes? >> it has really been an active day with tornadic activity, much more so than we've seen in most of the storms that we've had in this area. and we've been under a watch or warning off and on all day long. we do have two confirmed tornadoes within onslow county. one was in the sneeds ferry area, and one near belgrade road. there have been multiple tornadoes in the jurisdictions around our country. >> do you have reports on what kind of damage they might have done? >> we have not yet confirmed damage in the county. we will be sending out crews as soon as the most damaging winds pass so that they can begin to assess damage. we do not believe we have significant damage from the tornadoes within onslow county due to the location. one was fortunately in a more would th wooded area. some of the counties around us have had significant damage from zbloernds sharon russell, thank you so much and good luck to all of you tonight being at the emergency management center. it's a good opportunity for us to thank all the folks who put themselves in harm's way in situations like this to make sure other people are taking care of. so good luck to all the folks in onslow county and thank you for talking to us tonight. >> thank you so much. we are continuing to track hurricane dorian this hour. we'll go live to north carolina again a little later on in this hour. we've also going to get the latest on the devastation in the bahamas. that's where officials are preparing for the loss of lives and property to be far worse than we even know now. a new report from "the washington post" late tonight quotes a white house official who says it was donald trump who altered the hurricane map with a sharpy. that's next. geico makes it easy to get help when i need it. with licensed agents available 24-7, it's not just easy. it's having-jerome-bettis- on-your-flag-football-team easy. go get 'em, bus! ohhhh! 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"the washington post" reports quote it was trump who used a black sharpie to mark up an official noaa map which he displayed during an oval office briefing on wednesday according to a white house official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. no one else writes like that on a map with a black sharpie, the official said of the map. joining us, john vanela, national political reporter for nbc news digital. jamel smith for "rolling stone." i'm adding to the bizarre nature of all of this. in the middle of what is an ongoing threat to safety and health of americans, a hurricane threatening the east coast of the united states, the president has posted at least nine tweets on this. he's september out at least five maps. and then he had the white house release a 225-word statement defending his mistake. how did we get here? >> i'm going to answer your question in a minute, but first, just as a viewer, i wanted to take an opportunity to tell you how much i appreciate, during this incredible and harrowing week for so many americans, the coverage that you've been doing in the wee hours of this hurricane from behind the anchor desk there. i think i speak probably for a lot of msnbc viewers. >> you're too kind, and can i say, it's a privilege to sit at this desk in times like this. so i appreciate all of you who come on and talk to me. so go ahead, thank you, though, i appreciate it. >> you've been doing a great job. >> thanks. >> this is how we got here, and i don't think it took an international champion at the game of -- of the board game "clue" to surmise that it was the president who altered the map with a sharpie in the oval office. he has access to the oval office. he loves sharpies. he enjoys doctoring the truth. and nobody else would do it. this is a president who wanted to prove that he was right when he was wrong. and wants to go down fighting with that ship. and what's important to him is not only that he is seen certainly by his base and his supporters as credible, but that others are seen as not credible even when they're telling the truth. and so that's the fight he's having certainly with the news media and with his critics and with anybody who appreciates the truth, which is that this storm was not threatening alabama when he said that it was. and of course it would have been very easy for him to clean it up and just say, i'm sorry, i misspoke, alabama is not being threatened. >> in fact, quite to the contrary, jamel. wednesday the president was asked about this doctored map, and here's what he said. >> the original path that most people thought it was going to be taking was through florida, where on the right would have been georgia, alabama, et cetera. >> and the map that you showed today looked like it had a sharpie -- >> i don't know, i don't know, i don't know. >> jamel, he says he doesn't know. >> yeah, that's nonsense. i think that, you know -- what we really need to underscore here is that, yeah it's very tempting to laugh at all of this. i know the late night comedians had their fun with it. but donald trump's not funny. and we need to understand that we need to be able to believe the president. especially in moments like this. we need to be able to believe what is coming out of the white house, what is coming from our government, in times of crisis, when lives are at stake. i for one was in the south when this hurricane was starting to approach. you know, the bahamas. and i have family in the south. a lot of people do. a lot of people are in the south, in the path of this hurricane right now, and their lives are in danger. the president needs to be focused on that. we need to be able to believe what the president is telling us about the emergency measures that the government is taking. and right now we can't believe a word that is coming out of the white house, and that is a national emergency that we need to be dealing with right now. frankly, there's no way to deal with it because this president is focused purely on cleaning up or defending a lie because he thinks that it's weak to admit an error or a lie when in fact it's actually weak to defend it. >> well, you know, he canceled his trip to poland, jonathan, because he said he wanted to be here to sort of monitor, be on top of the storm. we know he golfed. we know he has been tweeting about a whole range of things, including a back and forth with debra messing in the middle of all of this. but here's "the washington post" take on it. quote trump, who has privately and publicly griped about media coverage during the group of 7 summit last month, complained extensively to administration officials this week about coverage of the alabama issue, and asked aides to bring him old briefings showing alabama in the storm's potential path, even as the category 2 hurricane knocked out power and damaged property in the carolinas on thursday. trump was highlighting old maps. and jonathan, even on fox news, the head meteorologist there said, this was not the case. it did not happen. the president was saying there was a 95% chance that never existed. >> the president himself has said recently that he's lost fox news. and he lamented it, said they're no longer working for us. i think a lot of people at fox news would take issue with the characterization that they were in the first place but certainly he believed they were, now believes that they aren't, because of things like that. where he says one thing and fox news says, this isn't true. the president has shown over the course of the past week very little interest in emphasizing the parts of this hurricane, this tragedy and devastation that we've seen in the virgin islands and the bahamas and several of our states in the united states, very little interest in emphasizing the parts that most of the rest of us are focused on in terms of the damage, in terms of the recovery, in terms of the human cost. and so much emphasis on a state that was not hit by the hurricane, that was not going to be hit by the hurricane, and even the maps that he put out that were the early projections, the sort of spaghetti maps as they call them with potential projections, disprove his theory. the few possible lines where they might have gone to alabama that were shown well before he was tweeting were in the very small minority of possibilities. >> i wonder. >> about the politics. some of the democrats talked about it. pete buttigieg said what we're seeing is literally pathetic. is there any impact? we're so divided. the people who think that the president and provably so lies consistently, that he has often before tried to make things something they weren't. we can go back to inauguration day when he wanted a bigger crowd. and on the other side, people who believe him, that the liberal left and fake news are out to get him. so are there any consequences for this in the middle of a national emergency, essentially, a real national emergency? him diverting with constant -- i mean, at one point, i think it was a day or two ago, this thing had died down. then he tweeted about it again. >> well, here's the thing. i think there will be consequences for potentially folks in alabama who were constantly being warned by their president that they need to prepare for a hurricane that isn't coming. so ideally, you know, they might actually take out some repercussions on the president at the ballot box. but i think, frankly, it underscores the need for democrats to put forth a candidate who actually can combat the president on this particular point. and i think frankly, as of this last week, you have the front-runner in the democratic primary, joe biden, saying that details don't matter and being caught in a very blatant lie on his iraq position. so i think the democrats need to worry about getting their own primary shaped up and getting their front-runner, his act together, you know, with regards to making sure that he understands that facts do matter, details do matter, when you're going to be running against a serial fabricator. i think that in fact, you know -- you've got to actually make sure that you actually have your facts straight. i think there are going to be a lot of voters who go to the ballot box in about a year who are actually going to care quite a bit about it. >> jamel smith from "rolling stone," jonathan allen from nbc digital, thank you for staying up into the wee hours with me. presidential candidate cory booker helped lead newark through superstorm sandy in 2011. what he learned about the dealing with the storm and the impact of extreme weather on vulnerable communities. senator cory booker is next. this simple banana peel represents a bold idea: a way to create energy from household trash. it not only saves about 80% in carbon emissions... it helps reduce landfill waste. that's why bp is partnering with a california company: fulcrum bioenergy. to turn garbage into jet fuel. because we can't let 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by seven tonight. it was down in the low 20s. it went up to 30. and we're told that it's going to probably rise dramatically tomorrow. and i want to get your reaction to what's happening in the bahamas and what we should be doing to help. >> well, number one, my heart aches watching the photos and the videos and seeing what's going on there. but you really hit the nail on the head, that when the storm passes, the danger persists. we lost people here in the city newark, lost lives in the days after, because of things that folks often don't think of. remember, hurricane sandy hit in october. it was cold. people often make mistakes running generators indoors. and we lost people to carbon dioxide poisoning. people need medicines and access to life-saving drugs that need to be refrigerated. if you have no power, your drugs can spoil. there are life-threatening things that happen in the aftermath of a storm that they are not out of the crisis yet. this is a test of our compassion and empathy right now. i'm hoping that folks are finding the right places to go to contribute to this effort. we here in the state of new jersey, believe it or not, have still people who are recovering their lives after the devastating loss. and again, lawrence, i appreciate you on so many levels, but appointing out the resiliency that people of wealth often have. but low-income families, poor families, it could be tragically, tragically devastating to their lives and the impact can be lasting and traumatic and last for years. >> i know people who, in the aftermath of hurricanes, simply pulled up and went to a hotel. a distant hotel. and i also know people who lost their homes and had nowhere to go. after sandy, i didn't get to new jersey, but i was in staten island which was absolutely devastated. and you're not surprising me by saying there are people in areas and housing situations that have not recovered, have not been made whole, since sandy. what is the government's responsibility in the aftermath of one of these storms? >> i think these are moments where we have to understand, it is all hands on deck. that our responsibility is everyone has to take responsibility. and lawrence, you and i live in the new york/new jersey area. we have seen from 9/11 to hurricane sandy where i saw the best of humanity come forward. people were there for their neighbors, there for their community. never stopped working. and i know first responders and us in the aftermath, my team was going days with very little to no sleep whatsoever. but i tell you what, we set up a hub in newark to receive resources, and we're getting truckloads of food and water from states around us. people sending their emergency crews here, doing sort of joint rescues. we had people stranded. it was an amazing moment where i saw -- people didn't ask your party, your background. the best of who we are. i think that's patriotism. i think that's love of country. love shouldn't stop at our boreders. this is the time we need that same kind of grace to the bahamas and what they're going through. in america we are one of the best nations if not the best nation often for showing support to a lot of our neighbors, especially in the caribbean, from haiti to the dominican republic to obviously in this case the bahamas. i'm hoping more and more americans will think, maybe i can't do everything but i can do something, even if it's a small gesture, to help that incredible nation to recover. >> that grace in the aftermath that you talk about, i saw, i witnessed it up close on staten island. truly inspiring after sandy. what made you decide to actually take people into your home? >> look, i love where i live. i live in a low-income, brother the poverty line community. you often see folks with little who consistently show the most. i've learned about the definition of grace from living here in newark, from people who i've seen rise to challenges. sometimes it's a murder in the community. a family that's been evicted over frankly b.s. and so i just feel blessed to have opportunities to return to a community that's done so much for me. in that aftermath i was in our command center and literally running around in the city. i got a text from one of my neighbors who just said, look, the power on our side of the block is out, your side is not. i go, look, i'm not using my house. here's how you get in. anything that you need, i'm going to send food and resources. it became a hub. the problem is that i got a lot of attention for doing that because maybe i was the mayor, but it was going on all over newark. all over new jersey. just to see the deep decency and goodness in our country when there is crises that happen. i have to say that sometimes when a visible storm passes, i hope that empathy can often continue to deal with other crises we have, whether environmental injustices or the scourge of gun violence. because we are at our best at as a community, as a country, when we don't let the lines that divide us ever stop us from tightening those bonds that hold this country together. we need more of that. i was in the 1989 earthquake in san francisco. i've never seen anything like it before. this was one that happened during the world series. horrible devastation. but i'll never forget, that was the first major natural disaster i was in, that weeks after you could go to gas stations, you could go to restaurants. there was this kindness in the air that was so profound. i saw america at its best. and i hope that we can continue, especially in this era where we see demeaning and degrading behavior happening at the highest office in the land. i want to see in our country, and this is one of the reasons i'm running for president, a revival of civic grace. the spirit we see come out when we're at our worst can also come out during times of relative calm or without these kind of natural disasters that remind us about american goodness. we need more of that now, more than ever, 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>> category 1, the lower the winds, the better. mostly we're talking about it lowers the storm surge a little bit and reduces power outages which is what people really care about when they return to their homes that have been evacuated. tracking the northern eye right now, so the eye is this structure all in here. you can see it goes all the way from the northern bright part where we have the biggest and the strongest thunderstorms, and this is the part that we're going to be watching as we go throughout, especially i'd say in the next two to three hours as it heads northward. let's get the latest measurement on this to see how far away we are. this is the atlantic beach area. then down to the eye. you know, right now it's about 26 miles. so this as the storm pushes up along the coast is going to brush this area here. so we'll see how that all plays out. but that's what we're watching. because that's where the highest winds are. here's a different view of it on the radar. i have some of the stations that have the automatic wind readings on it. 57, a pair of them. quite the day, you started off with tornados, that big tornado. a lot of significant damage. now you've got a hurricane right next door. cape lookout starting to increase. winds not so bad in wilmington anymore. they're on the back side of the storm and heading out. high tide cycle is ongoing right now. looking at the storm gauge down here in the beaufort area. the storm surge is under 2 feet, that's good. the potential was 4 to 7 feet, according to the national hurricane center, that's just potential. that really hasn't materialized, that's great. one thing happening right now is life-threatening flash flooding. this area in pink is under a high risk of flash flooding. they've got ann ton of rain today. it's going to pour another 12 hours or so. and here's the map. everywhere in green means a chance of flash flooding. this purple is 3 inches, red is 5, an additional 7 inches of rain, that's why they have high risk. just because the winds aren't going to cause a lot of damage, water kills about 80% of people in tropical storms and hurricanes. a lot of that's from the storm surge and also flash flooding. >> but when i'm looking at that map, the worst of what any of the folks there are seeing and feeling will be done by midday tomorrow? >> yeah ing . then by about 4:00, 5:00, the rain should be gone too. so tomorrow will be a day of assessing what happened and how much cleanup is needed and how long power will be out. >> bill karins, thank you very much. appreciate it. hurricane dorian could make landfall in a matter of hours as it approaches the outer banks. msnbc correspondent david gura back with us from nags head near cape hatteras. have you felt any change in the last 40 minutes or so since we spoke? >> i felt the wind pick up a bit here, and high tide has happened. that was at 1:29 local time. you see the waves behind me have gotten a bit bigger. the beach empty has it has been for many hours now. what i heard from a lot of folks i talked to today up and down the outer banks is they were moving up the slow movingness of this storm. they watched with interest and trepidation as that storm sort of sat off the coast of south carolina moving at 7, 8 miles per hour. that's what they feared the most, that it would come here and sit. of course there are all these bands of wind and rain they continue to reccen with here as the storm moves. they were worried it was going to move slowly. back down south where i was earlier, near hatteras, in buxton, you're on a spit of land where it's just hundreds of yards really between the atlantic ocean and the pamlico sound and there was a lot of concern if the storm were to sit there, you'd get washout from the atlantic ocean. then you'd get wash out from the sound as well, and that could be incredibly damaging to the road, to highway 12 that leads from here down to hatteras. it's a two-lane road call aed a highway way, but it really is just a two-lane road. and folks we talked to down there was what concerned them the most is they could be stuck, unable to leave those communities for a number of days as crews work to get the water, the sand, the seagrass off those roads. as you make your way down farther, you're likely to see people who decided they wanted to stick around. in hurricanes past, they had to reckon with the fact that if they were to leave those parts of the outer banks, it might be hard to get back on to them. there's one large bridge that takes you down to those lower outer banks. they close that when the winds get high. as i mentioned earlier, at 8:00 a curfew was issued here for dare county, which compromises a lot of these outer banks. that bridge was closed there as well. the official message from the county government was if you haven't left at this point, chris, you got to hunker down. you've got to stay where you are. so there are people sadly here in these 59 miles between here and hatteras who have elected to do that. >> stay safe. do not go out on the roads. david gura, thank you very much for braving the storm for us. coming up, the death toll in the bahamas now at 30, and the health minister says he expects that number to climb dramatically. and one of the major issues right now, tens of thousands of people without water. we'll talk to a person in freeport about that situation next. snacking can mean that pieces get stuck under mike's denture. but super poligrip gives him a tight seal. to help block out food particles. so he can enjoy the game. super poligrip. they give us excellent customer otservice, every time.e. our 18 year old was in an accident. usaa took care of her car rental, and getting her car towed. all i had to take care of was making sure that my daughter was ok. if i met another veteran, and they were with another insurance company, i would tell them, you need to join usaa because they have better rates, and better service. we're the gomez family... we're the rivera family... we're the kirby family, and we are usaa members for life. get your auto insurance quote today. here's another cleaning tip from mr. clean. cleaning tough bathroom and kitchen messes with sprays and wipes can be a struggle. there's an easier way. try mr. clean magic eraser. just wet, squeeze and erase tough messes like bathtub soap scum and caked-on grease from oven doors. now mr. clean magic eraser comes in disposable sheets. they're perfect for icky messes on stovetops, in microwaves, and all over the house. for an amazing clean, try mr. clean magic eraser, and now, new mr. clean magic eraser sheets. on a scale of one to five? 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>> good morning. i'm just so happy to be here to be able to speak to you. there are not that many persons who have made it through hurricane dorian. hurricane dorian has had just a major impact on this island as well as on abaco. and for me personally, where i'm living, it's not a place where you could think that there would be a concern for flooding, and it was. we live very inland. however, we live in an area that, you know, just contained the water when that surge came rushing in. and we had to immediately pick up our bag that we had packed just in the event of a call to evacuate and leave the house. >> i know that -- >> and that happened for many persons. >> yeah. we're watching some of the rescues that are going on, and even as they're looking for survivors, the reality of what is facing folks going forward -- and since you're a water keeper, i know one of the concerns is fresh water, access to water. what can you tell us about that? >> you know, and that's most concerning because we're wondering now as residents on grand bahama how soon will the water supply be available. but not only how soon will water supply be available, but how healthy will the water be? 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