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Released meaning liberals running egypt any time soon. >> in you look at the demonstrations on the streets those are not ra radical extremists. these are people objecting to their economic and political, they are not -- >> but they are not prowestern either. iran was able to put down its demonstrations last year because it successfully marginalized the demonstrators as secular prowestern supported by the u.s. that is clearly not the case here. this is all of egypt rising up against mubarak. >> y...

U.s. officials have said to me over the past few day, theyre deeply worried. as flawed at mu baik ibarak que they dont know what will happen. >> sure. the what ifs. the shaw takes to the streets. would we be dealing with the iran were dealing with now. the fact of the matter is, the world isnt made of what ifs. its made up of, what did you do then? ive heard that from more than one person today saying, this just reminds me what went on in iran. what are we going to get next? and whats what theyr...

Passions that youve known were simmering have now boiled over, you pretty much have to look at what is going to be a new reality in egypt, and what are you going to -- you know, whos next? thats really the big question. because if hosni mubarak goes, who, then, comes in and who can play that role? and, look. egypt has also been very strong anti-iran. so i imagine that theres probably no one happier at this point than the leadership in iran looking at whats going on. >> some analysts suggested th...

If we think turning against the shaw it permitted us to earn stripes with ayatollah that came to power, forget about it. on one hand, secular democrats should be able to contest and uncontest election in egypt, waiting in the wings is the muslim brotherhood. >> neil: but we are repeating a bad sin. >> unless we propel elections and let secular democrats that mubarak jailed to emerge and establish the political apparatus that may in effect withstand the onslaught of a muslim brotherhood political...

>> neil: the military vehicles are outside the expensive homes protesting them. this is a french revolution deal. >> another thing is how fast this happens. the obvious thing to look at egypt is iran. the return of the ayatollah. it happened over years. 78 is when it began and then the shaw leaves in 79. now in twitter age and internet age, all of that compressed like this. forget about putting a tank in front of my house. take me to the airport. >> neil: but you are a guy that trades stocks and...

Charles? >> i thought that was a very fine line the president drew. i thought it was a good line. clear from the speech that president of egypt just made he is not leaving, he is not shaken and he is ready to tough it out. unlike for example when the shaw began collapsing, he showed a lot of steel. he was paternalistic. i care about my people and the poor. looking at the riots in the street, you would think that he is being unrealistic. the issue hinges on the army. mubarak is from the army. he ...

Should we support the shaw? let the military fire on the streets of the people? remember, there were islamic leader, ayatollah khomeini waiting in the wings, stalking, and there was enormous pent-up pressure. because of the indecisiveness and jimmy carter had people around him in the state department, strong democrats. weve got -- when i say "democrats," i am talking democrats that are support civil liberties, fine. our foreign policy cant be made because of what we watch on cairo -- >> neil: ar...

Ive been told by a senior source they are leaving the israeli diplomat there on the ground in egypt and waiting it see at least overnight what happens there in cairo before they make a decision whether theyre going to actually pull all of the israeli citizens out egypt and bring them back here to israel. of course, the big question is what is egypt going to look like? what is israels southern border going to be like? who is going to be there? i talked to our bureau chief who was in tehran in 197...

Will end, eventually soon. hes 82. not going to have a future. he has to be succeeded. on the other hand we remember in the late 70s as you say when the shaw began to weaken, the united states kicked away the stool under him. and abandoned him. at that point, it was over, and as we know, the islamist took over. thats why -- >> bret: form of ayatollah khomeini. >> and the islamic revolution, from which we suffer even today. thats why the president was not ready to abandon mubarak, but he is insis...

Compete for the presidential campaign. >> neil: is that going to fly? >> i dont think it will fly, but you have to put yourself in the mind of mubarak right now. he is not prepared to take advice from washington that washington is dishing out. >> neil: hes right about that. regardless of the administration. dead on. i was wondering about you, ambassador. you were there in the iran controversy, the rap against jimmy carter is he wasnt very clear on going to support the shaw, not support the shaw....