d.a.? not yet, no. you know, they say thatly notify us when there s a grand jury vote. when that happens, depending on that vote, the next steps will be discussed. we re hearing what everyone else is hearing regarding timing and whatnot. sean: the grand jury convenes tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. probably be done by 5:00 p.m. that would be the earliest you would hear from them. i assume protocol, you hear from them first, correct? per protocol. not a lot about this case is following protocol. normally we hear from them first. again, i get minus from the daily press briefings by michael cohen when he comes out of court. who knows. who knows what will happen here, sean. sean: let s talk about that. you have bob costello on this program tonight. he appeared before the grand jury monday. he called cohen a serial liar.
i have one thing to say that is new. i want your perception of what went on in the grand jury room and bring our audience in the room so they have a better understanding what really went down. we ll take a break and come back. more with both of our guests, bob costello and kellyanne conway. while the trump probe continues, democrats are raising the alarm that a looming indictment might rally more support behind him. we ll check in wit
right. they want to go home and look themselves in the mirror. michael cohen has the credibility of a pipe cleaner. he s somebody that no one can rest a case on. alvin bragg said previously based on one of his assistant prosecutors own comments, that this guy acts like he s a movie star. he s a felon bankrupt, a convicted liar and a purgerer. he couldn t say great things about donald trump every time he got in front of a camera. he couldn t way to say how great he was. now he s trying to write a book and get his book sold. putting him aside for a second, bob costello has no axe to grind here. that was his former client. he said this guy is making up tales and telling stories. one thing he did, michael cohen, aside from pleading guilty to various lies and admitting to lying before congress and
what do you have on donald trump? that s when he started with the same litany that he used for the rest of the two hours. i swear to god, bob, i don t have anything on donald trump. i said do you have any information on the trump organization? the only thing i know, said he, is that some money was missing from the trump inaugural ball or something like that. i said is donald trump involved in that? no. does donald trump know about that? he said he didn t know about it then or now. the point is when somebody is thinking of committing suicide and you re offering them a legal way out of this, if he had any information about donald trump, that would have been the one time for a liar like michael cohen to fess up and say i know this or that. because i want to save my own hide. he didn t do that. the statement he gave us is very similar to that statement that you just read. sean: that i just read.
her campaign promise was, i promise you, i will get it. i i want to add something new that hasn t been said before. she bob costello hasthis c changed this case dramatically. asi think that bragge know now o only has two possible resultst, from that. number one ,i he can say, all right, i m going to try to make the case without cohen. he cannot use cohen as ahen witness anymore.as a witn that would be unethical because of the testimony that costello gave or he could say, look, i have to drop. may he may not be able to make it without cohen, but if he can t make it without cohen, he can t make it because no ethical prosecutor is allowed to put on as a witness, somebody w who has told the lies and his sountry himself so much. so i think that bob costello, th it s a game changer.here. i think maybe that s the reason for the delay here. i think ethical experts are nowi telling bragge, wait a minute, you cannot use cohen. so if you can make it through, .